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RE: FTP to VAN

From: "Shan Harter" <shan@...>
Date: Wed Feb 18, 2004  4:33 pm
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] FTP to VAN
The issues with FTP are known such as denial of service attacks and may
others listed in
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2577.txt (or see it at IETF)

The real problem is malicious behavior. Since FTP user ID's and passwords
are in the clear its easy
to get them. Most of the issues would be someone trying to "hurt" the
company in some way. Theft may
also occur. Say someone intercepted the passwords then captured some orders
worth 1000's or millions
and changed the address or the order quantity and directed to a warehouse
someone where they picked it up.

This is just one of millions of possibilities. I have rarely seen it happen
but the possibility is out there.

I strongly recommend that you go with an ebXML solution (over SSL) or AS2
(over SSL). Even NAESB 1.6 (with SSL)
is better than FTP. Some VAN's support AS2. ebXML is still too new to them,
I would imagine, but there are "hubs"
that support ebXML as a simple command line client (like ftp) but has the
SSL component, and they have the interconnects
to other VANs such as GEIS, sterling, etc.

The main issues are if you can't encrypt your payload (an order 850, lets
say) with GNUPG or some method, then
at least encrypt your transmission.

Shan
Regards,

Shan


Shan Harter
VP of Project Services
Systrends, Inc.
7855 S. River Pkwy, Suite 111, Tempe, AZ 85284-2510
Phone 480-756-6777, Fax 480-756-9755







-----Original Message-----
From: Epshteyn, Vladimir [mailto: Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:06 AM
To: Subject: RE: [EDI-L] FTP to VAN


We are using FTP (just regular FTP) with QRS (Advantis) and we use it for a
while. During last several years we did not have any issues with security
and any other major issues at all.

Vladimir

-----Original Message-----
From: Earl Wertheimer [mailto: Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:08 PM
To: Subject: Re: [EDI-L] FTP to VAN

Tracy

> For those using ftp to your van, are you worried about security? If
> so, what are you doing about it? I am specifically interested in QRS
> and Sterling VAN's. We will be using GIS as our translator on a Unix
> box.

I've never had a client complain about the lack of security... yet.
The Trading Partners, WalMart in particular are a whole different story.

QRS is supposed to be pretty secure, but I don't have any clients connecting
to
QRS/Advantis using ftp yet. They are still on dial-up ;-)

Sterling just uses straight ftp, and it hasn't been a problem.

Earl Wertheimer
http://www.spe-edi.com



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