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Re: ISA16 - sub element delimiter
The second subelement of the fourth element is notated REF0402. I've also
seen it notated REF04.02
At 03:38 PM 3/12/2004, wrote:
>Tom:
>
>Nice explanation. How would you distinguish which sub-element you want
>to use - in your example, how would you 'pull' only the 4321 and not the
>BM?
>REF*PK*1234**BM>4321~
>
>
>
>Sincerely,
>MATTHEW P. KILEY
>Work: (512) 723 - 5261
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Brandt [mailto:
>Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:32 PM
>To: John Fiorino;
>Subject: Re: [EDI-L] ISA16 - sub element delimiter
>
>
>A sub-element separator separates sub-elements in a compound element.
>These
>are used extensively in EDIFACT, but not so much in X12. For example,
>the
>REF segment has for elements (funny your customer should have a problem
>with the REF):
>
>REF01 - Ref ID qualifier (element ID 128)
>REF02 - Ref ID (element ID 127)
>REF03 - Description (element ID 352)
>REF04 - Ref ID (element ID C040)
>
>The last element is a compound element which contains 6 subelements - 3
>pairs of Ref ID Qualifiers and Ref IDs.
>
>The element separator separates REF01, REF02, REF03 and REF04, and the
>subelement separator separates the subelements in REF04. If the element
>separator is "*", the subelement separator is ">", and segment
>terminator
>is "~", the REF can look like:
>
>REF*PK*1234**BM>4321~
>
>
>The usage of the subelement separator by your customer's trading partner
>is
>completely incorrect, as the REF02 is not a compound element.
>
>At 03:16 PM 3/12/2004, John Fiorino wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Can someone please explain what the ISA16 - SUB ELEMENT DELIMITER is
>for?
> >
> >I got a call today from one of my customers today and they had a rather
> >"animated" discussion today with one of their partners about the
>purpose
> >behind this segment.
> >
> >They (my customer) are sending a test 810 invoice out to one of their
>new
> >partners. They have sent the same 810 to a dozen or so other partners
>and
> >never had a complaint. In order to satisfy their business needs, they
>send
> >out multiple REF segments that basically contain a text field. It is
>really
> >mutually defined. The ref01 is ZZ and the ref02 contains a string that
>is
> >about 80 chars long that contains customs brokers data. The data is a
>text
> >field and for some unknown reason ("that's the way it's always been
>done")
> >the text contains a "|" (vertical bar) within this text. For example:
> >
> >REF*ZZ*this is| an example| of a string | that is sent | in the ref02
> >
> >The "|" serves as a kind of delimiter for the text itself - not a true
>EDI
> >delimiter. They do this so their partners can import these strings into
>a
> >spreadsheet to print. In other words the | works like a comma in a
>comma
> >delimited string.
> >
> >Now the issue that their new partner brings up is that the ISA16 should
> >contain this bar | as the sub-element delimiter since according to them
>it
> >is used as the string delimiter within the REF02.
> >
> >Does this make any sense? Are they (the new partner) right in assuming
>that
> >the | is now the sub-element delimiter?
>
>--
>Tom Brandt
>Northtech Systems, Inc.
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>Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1343
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