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Fwd: Re: Inovis TLE 6.0 Service Pack 3 - Review
I have seen a lot of comments with regards to the Subelement seperators and the
new control elements being used in the higher lined ISA's(4020 >) . When the new
ISA was unveiled several complexities were intertwined into the mix including
the new enforcement of the sub element and the "repeating" element markers. In a
sense what has happened to the translator market had to more strictly enforce
its integrity checks. Translators now have to account for a new level of
compliancy in the ANSI X12 world, that has been available in HL7 and other
standards from inception. The main difference is accounting for a true
subelement component makrer and repeating element marker. Programatically there
is NO WAY to allow the interchanges to be parsed correctly unless you have a
check box or something that is for lazy standards enforcement.
Tom Brandt < wrote: Subelement separators are starting
to be used in X12. The 4030 and above
REF segment has it, as do some segments in some health care transaction
sets. Allowing the same character to be used for both the element
separator and subelement separator really is a bug, although the upgrade
should have "grandfathered" trading partners already doing it.
>
> The first thing that I got hit by was a change Inovis made regarding
> how it deals with the character sent in ISA16 (Subelement Separator).
>
> In Previous Versions, you could have almost anything you wanted for
> a Subelement Separator. In the more than 15 Years that I've been
> doing EDI, I have never seen any cases that used the Subelement
> separator. Inovis however determined that in allowing the same
> character to be defined as both an Element separator and a
> Subelement separator was a bug. They fixed it and by doing that,
> they shut down all EDI with trading partners that sent EDI with the
> same character for both. I have a trading partner that sends me EDI
> using Version 002002 and they used the "*" character for both the
> Element separator and in ISA16. I have to manually edit the EDI to
> change ISA16 to another character ( I'm changing it to "\" ) in
> order to get the EDI to translate. Support is saying that they
> logged a defect for this because in version 002002, it was allowed
> to have the same character for both. In either case, I suggest you
> look at the EDI you're receiving and work on getting your trading
> partners to change their ISA16 if the above condition exists.
>
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Tom Brandt
Northtech Systems, Inc.
130 S 1st Street, Suite 220
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1343
http://www.northtech.com
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