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RE: Re: EDI Maps for 7-Eleven

From: "Michael Kotoyan" <michaelk@...>
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004  5:42 pm
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Re: EDI Maps for 7-Eleven
Rod,

You really must be board at your job, or probably have nothing to do on
Fridays if you send such silly emails calling me a "rookie". This is not
a sports league, it's BUSINESS!! I was trying to take care of business
and get a head start on mapping 7-Eleven and you criticize me for not
calling it "IGs".

Also, regarding you doubting my experience, I do not care what you think
and I do not need to prove anything to you.

This list in the past years has become in such defense mode, it's
sometimes frightening to post stuff here because people do not take
posts very seriously or are afraid that a yahoo post might take away
their job.


-----Original Message-----
From: rkasnick [mailto: Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 8:02 AM
To: Subject: [EDI-L] Re: EDI Maps for 7-Eleven

Sorry Michael, I don't buy it. If you are truly as experienced as you
say, you would not have made a rookie mistake of calling an IG a map.
IG's (or compliance docs, or mapping docs, whatever) are not referred
to as 'maps' as anyone who has been around for longer than 6 months
knows.

Regards
Rod Kasnick

--- In "Michael Kotoyan" <michaelk@d...> wrote:
> John,
>
> I have been on this list for many years and have also as EDI
> professional given tips and advice and posted enough to this group. I
> have worked in many
> EDI environments on the vendor, customer, and EDI provider side.
>
> I am a member of the Southern California Ecommerce Board and a
> frequenter at the UCC conventions. So, I know what it's like when you
> say " EDI compliance does not come free.".
>
> Anyway, I am not looking for an already translated map for a specific
> EDI translator. I am looking for an Implementation Guide. I already
made
> a request for 7-11 to send me one, and just wanted to get ahead start
on
> implementation.
>
> People have exchanged EDI specs on this list before. I was not aware
> that it's unethical or is not allowed to exchange EDI maps on EDI-L.
> This is not the first time. Just because I work for an EDI provider
and
> I am not self employed does not mean that now I have less privileges
on
> this list.
>
> Thank You,
>
>
> Michael Kotoyan
> EDI Specialist
> Direct EDI, Inc
> 7975 Raytheon Rd
> San Diego, CA 92111
> Phone: 858-751-2626 x12
> Fax: 858-751-2627
> Email: michaelk@d...
> WE SPEAK EDI
> www.directedi.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Murray [mailto:johnkmurray@c...]
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:52 AM
> To: > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] EDI Maps for 7-Eleven
>
> Michael,
>
> Before replying I took the time to check out your company's website
and
> came
> across this quote:
>
> "With Direct EDI's flagship web-based system our clients avoid the
cost
> of
> software and hardware purchase and the cost of I.T. support staff."
>
> I really, and I mean REALLY hope that Michael Mattias is right and
what
> you
> are looking for is a source for 7-11 Implementation Guides, because if
> not
> then you are not only in the business of putting most of us on this
list
> (Those "expensive" IT and Consulting resources your marketing bits
claim
> your customers won't need) out of work but you also want US to supply
> you
> with the intellectual property that the same "expensive" IT and
> Consulting
> resources have already developed. And you want it free of charge.
>
> EDI compliance does not come free. You either invest the time and
money
> into
> training in-house resources, you spend the money for consultants to do
> it
> for you, or you pay a third-party like your company and outsource the
> whole
> shebang(ie: the gift that keeps on giving!). In the end it all comes
> down to
> choosing the best overall solution to meet a given company's needs
> and/or
> resources.
>
> As Michael has already pointed out 7-11 is your best resource for
> Implementation Guides. Most of us on this list are only too happy to
> help a
> fellow professional find resources, or will offer tips and
suggestions.
> Please don't be offended if we stop short of giving away the whole
> store. As
> for the actual maps, well those are proprietary to a given software
> solution
> and B) to the company that licenses the software and pays to have the
> maps
> developed.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Kotoyan [mailto:michaelk@d...]
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:50 AM
> To: > Subject: [EDI-L] EDI Maps for 7-Eleven
>
> Can someone please email me the EDI maps for 7-Eleven?
>
>
>
>
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