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Re: Wrapped files and segment terminators
Hi all,
I appologise, I should have been more specific.
MKIII only has this limitation on some transport protocols. It depends on
if the transport protocol can write a file on MKIII's file system as ASCII
or Binary. If it can only write the file in ASCII mode (the DEMT command)
then the limits I stated apply, otherwise they don't.
BTW> DEMT stands for Direct Entry Mode Text.
Cheers...
Michael Burbury
GE ecXpress Australia.
System Administration
----- Original Message -----
From: <
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:34 AM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Wrapped files and segment terminators
> We use GE MKIII. We have some TPs that receive a segment terminator that
is
> a printable character. We also use the CR (0D) as a segment terminator
for
> other TPs.
>
> The only requirement MKIII has is that the data be UNWRAPPED. Your
> translator should have the option to send the data in wrapped or unwrapped
> format. Let the built in functionality work as designed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Burbury [mailto:
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:14 PM
> To: EDI-L (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Wrapped files and segment terminators
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Unfortunately, GE's old MKIII EDI*EXPRESS will choke if there is no <LF>
> charcaters within 3680 bytes of the file being sent (A MKIII page size
> limit). This is why GE specifies to use a CR as the segment terminator
> followed by a <LF>. If the file is <3680 bytes, no issues. On MK3000
> EDI*EXPRESS, this is not a requirement.
>
> Also some older transport protocols choke if there is no <LF> in the file
> being sent.
> (Odette FTP, OSI/FTP over X.25 and I also believe IBM's LU6.2).
>
> Then it gets more confusing, if you use TCP/IP FTP to download a file with
> <CR><LF> and specify ASCII mode and you are on a Unix based system, the
<CR>
> becomes stripped off and now the <LF> is your segment terminator.
>
> Translators that do not support multi-charcater segment terminators are
not
> supporting the true X.12 definition which clearly states that "wrapped
> records" is an option. With these translators, I have found you need a
> pre-processing program to strip the wrapping charcaters before
translating.
>
>
> Cheers...
>
> Michael Burbury
> GE ecXpress Australia.
> System Administration
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Rawlins" <
> To: "EDI-L (E-mail)" <
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Wrapped files and segment terminators
>
>
> > As far as most EDI standards go, there is no such thing as an "end of
> line" character,
> > there is only *a* segment terminator character. In my experience most
> VANs can't
> > handle "end of line" character(s) in addition to a segment terminator,
but
> some might.
> >
> > Robbi McClane wrote:
> >
> > > Would a wrapped file use a CR+LF combination as the end of line
> character??
> > > And if so, would a segment terminator of CR or LF be used?
> > >
> > > I realize that theoretically anything is possible - I'm just wondering
> if
> > > anyone has seen any of the above scenarios...
> > >
> > > Example wrapped:
> > > ISA*00* *00* *ZZ*133052274 *ZZ*732880001
> > > *010529*231
> > >
>
3*U*00304*000001269*0*P*<@GS*IN*133052274H*732880001H*010529*2313*000000001*
> > > X*00
> > >
>
3041@ST*810*000000001@BIG*20011110*13493529@TDS*1930450@SE*4*000000001@GE*1*
> > > 0000
> > > 00001@IEA*1*000001269@
> > >
> > > Example wrapped w/CR segment terminator:
> > > ISA*00* *00* *ZZ*133052274 *ZZ*732880001
> > > *010529*231
> > > 3*U*00304*000001269*0*P*<
> > > GS*IN*133052274H*732880001H*010529*2313*000000001*X*003041
> > > ST*810*000000001
> > > BIG*20011110*13493529
> > > TDS*1930450
> > > SE*4*000000001
> > > GE*1*000000001
> > > IEA*1*000001269
> > >
> > > Robbi McClane
> > > Vitria Technology
> > > (703) 885-4672 office
> > > (717) 880-4001 mobile
> > >
> > >
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> > --
> > Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting
> > www.rawlinsecconsulting.com
> >
> >
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