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RE: <JOBS> URGENT NEED FOR GENTRAN PERSON!!!!
Fortunately I am employed right now. I see the people
on the list though, many a week that do need jobs,
maybe it could help them out. To be 100% honest, I
had passed on the job when I heard Gentran, I don't
like it. I am a Mercator guy. I see your side
though, and in better times I would agree, but while
there still are EDI peers without any work, I will
continue to forward any post I see to the list if for
nothing else, to know that each night when I go to
bed, I thought about someone OTHER THAN myself.
-Will
--- Ilia Chlaifer < wrote:
>
> William:
>
> My sincere apologies to you, if you are currently
> unemployed, or
> struggle to make a leaving while being having the
> following
> qualifications:
>
> <start quote>
> > Design (architecture, Process flows, interfaces,
> > controls) Develop and Test (maps, test data, unit
> > and
> > integration testing), Project management,
> Implement
> > Solutions, Monitor production streams. Experience
> > with
> > WebMethods, with communication Protocols and EDI
> > over
> > the internet. Experience with EDI/EC standards
> > including ANSI, Familiarity with Gentran Server
> for
> > UNIX, AS400.
> <end quote>
>
> You see, William they are not asking for the entry
> level person. To know
> these things you have to be a savvy, and heavily
> trained main frame
> Gentran guy with a good 5 years of production
> experience under your
> belt.
>
> This job should have at least $70 p/h ticket on it.
> Believe me if you
> know Project Management (besides the other things
> they want) it DOES
> MAKE YOU A SENIOR DUDE. EDI Project manager or
> implementation specialist
> should get at least $120 p/h, and EDI "architect"
> should get $150 or
> more.
>
> Why would the junior edi guy would do a project
> management, or
> architecture? Was this included in the job
> description asn an FYI?
> Please!!!
>
> This sounded big time to me, but perhaps they are
> honestly trying to
> help you out, since you are broke and want to use
> some help?
>
> Or may be they just want to exploit some desperate
> EDI Professional who
> was not able to find a spot during last few months?
> Well, incase you did
> not notice, the market is much better then a year
> ago, and there are
> people willing to pay the appropriate rates. If you
> can't get those
> rates locally, perhaps you should reallocate and
> work elsewhere for a
> change (except for India of course) and bring home
> some bacon.
>
>
> Well, if you are all that, and you take this
> position for $37 p/h, then
> I'll eat my hat, and send pix to prove it.
>
>
>
>
> Ilia
>
> Angry EDI Guy.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Wilson
> [mailto:
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:44 AM
> To: Wayne Marshall; Ilia Chlaifer;
>
>
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <JOBS> URGENT NEED FOR GENTRAN
> PERSON!!!!
>
> Well by my calculations sitting at home making $0 /
> hr
> is not going to get you kids into college any sooner
> either. How about just letting this go as it is.
> An
> opportunity for someone with Gentran experience
> (obviously not a senior person) to make some money
> in
> a still recovering economy.
>
> Between you myself and the rest of the list, it is
> very easy to see why the jobs are going overseas
> with
> people like you and llia. The entire EDI community
> is
> not at the senior level. If you can remember back
> that long Wayne, when you first started out a
> position
> like this would would make you pretty damn happy to
> be
> a consultant. Be consistant for gods sakes. You
> want
> the jobs here but when they are offered your first
> move is to insult and mock. I think your head has
> gotten a tad to large for your shoulders, comments
> like yours are best kept inside yourself. We need
> to
> all work together in hard economic times, show some
> support!!
>
> Or are you just bitter because EDI Specialists
> wasn't
> included in this contract post?
>
>
> --- Wayne Marshall <
> wrote:
>
> > My thoughts exactly
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ilia Chlaifer [mailto:
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:23 AM
> > To: William Wilson;
> >
> > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <JOBS> URGENT NEED FOR
> GENTRAN
> > PERSON!!!!
> >
> >
> > Hi Will.
> >
> > May be its just me, but here are my calculations
> > based on your rate:
> >
> > $37 p/h = $1480 p/week
> > Deduct 35% tax (average) = $962
> > $962 p/week = $50,024 p/y
> > Deduct family health insurance (if your spouse
> > doesn't carry one) you
> > are left with $25-30,000.
> > Deduct your mortgage/rent/car payments.
> > If you are not in below zero yet, think about your
> > food, gas college
> > money for kids.
> >
> > No wander we get outsourced to India.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ilia
> >
> > KHNY EDI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Wilson
> > [mailto:
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:13 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <JOBS> URGENT NEED FOR
> GENTRAN
> > PERSON!!!!
> >
> >
> > Good Morning List!!
> >
> > I am sending this on behalf of a recruiter who I
> > spoke
> > with earlier today. I was not a fit for this
> > position
> > but felt that someone on the list might be able to
> > provide assistance. Please read the below job
> > description and reply directly to Steve. His
> > contact
> > info can be found at the bottom of this email.
> This
> > needs to be filled today so GET HOT!!!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Will Wilson
> > EDI Programmer
> > 978-328-8493
>
=== message truncated ===
=====
Regards,
Will Wilson
EDI Developer
978-328-8493(Mobile)
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