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RE: EDIINT - duplicate IDs/Digests?

From: "Eckenfels. Bernd" <b.eckenfels@...>
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2004  11:34 am
Subject: RE: EDIINT - duplicate Message IDs/Message Digests?
Hello Rich,

it is dangerous (because of possible duplicates) to resend a message with a new
ID, therefore this should be avoided. Your WebMethods software should have a way
to reset the duplicates check for a given ID (and ideally it should not mark a
message as received unless it has actually received the message in a way it is
usefull for the application).

I dont know the WM tool, but I know that our software offers you the ability to
mark an already received id for "re-receiving" and it also allows already
received messages in the archive for reprocessing. It is guranteed that the
message is in the archive before the ID is locked (which is the requirmeent of
the AS2) - to ensure that exactly your problem will not happen.

That said, it would be kind from your Trading Partner to resend the message. If
the "EDI" folks refuse to do that (for example because the software does not
support it), it is also possible to just ask the ERP folks to resend it. This
normally will result in a new transmission ID, anyway.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Bernd Eckenfels
Chief Architect
--
SEEBURGER AG - Edisonstr.1 , D-75015 Bretten, Germany
Fax: +49 (0)7252 96-2400 - Phone: +49 (0)7252 96-1256
mailto: - http://www.seeburger.de


Message: 13
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:41:11 -0500
From: "Hurd, Richard [SLCUS]" < Subject: EDIINT - duplicate Message IDs/Message Digests?

Which is the more common practice (and which is the compliant practice) for
EDIINT message failures - resend a message with duplicate Message IDs and
Message Digests, or make them always unique?

We are receiving duplicates, and our WebMethods installation is refusing to
open the payloads because the original message failed (for an unknown
reason) and the re-send from the trading partner is a duplicate as far as WM
is concerned. The trading partner refuses to resend the document using a
different ID and digest, so here we sit; with a payload that is for all
intents and purposes useless.

The trading partner maintains that "it's standard practice to resend the
same message until an MDN is received" and our team is saying of course "we
are not so sure resending message IDs and message digests is standard
practice in AS2."

The finger pointing game begins.

Any opinions? All I want is my lousy data.

Rich Hurd
Johnson & Johnson Consumer Companies
IM Planning & Logistics
Phone: (908) 874-1523
If you think nothing is impossible, try slamming a revolving door. --
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