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Re: Gentran:Server for Unix Question

From: "William J. Kammerer" <wkammerer@...>
Date: Tue Jan 25, 2005  1:11 pm
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Gentran:Server for Unix Question
Learning Albanian is presumably no more difficult than learning English.
But the choice of language in which to write scientific articles and
conduct business is English - for "most" folks. Simply because it's more
ubiquitous, thanks to the first Queen Elizabeth.

Learning XML requires "experience" and
"tutorials/lessons/documentation", to be sure. But XML has more ready
applications than just e-business. Thus, it's far more likely that folks
will spend the energy and time learning it (rather than EDIFACT or X12
syntax) if they already haven't done so. There's a viral effect.

I don't know where your "here" is. But, yes, like the children at Lake
Woebegone, all the monkeys of Columbus are above average.

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA
+1 (614) 487-0320

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andres Tomlin" < To: "'William J. Kammerer'" < "'EDI-L Mailing
List'" < Sent: Tuesday, 25 January, 2005 04:43 AM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Gentran:Server for Unix Question



Every one of "the millions of people" who know this XML "trivia" (as
opposed to EDIFACT "arcana") have learnt it in the same way that the
"few hundred folks" who know EDIFACT did. They learnt it from
experience, from assistance or from tutorials/lessons/documentation.

Monkeys may be smarter in Columbus but XML is not so ubiquitous around
here that everyone knows how to develop in it. I did not know the escape
sequences in XML but then I don't need to. And millions of people don't
know EDIFACT escape characters. Because they don't need to. They are
both easy to implement when you know how.

Andres.

-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:46 PM
To: EDI-L Mailing List
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Gentran:Server for Unix Question




Chris, one nice thing about XML is that this business of the "quote"
would never have arisen as an issue. Of course, in XML there are special
characters like ampersand (&) and the left angle bracket (<) that can't
appear in their literal form within data, but there are standard escape
sequences such as "&amp;" or "&lt;".

You might say this is analogous to the EDIFACT situation where "?" is
used to escape delimiters, but there is a BIG difference: everyone in
the world who's made a web page with HTML is familiar with the concept.
There are literally millions of people who know this XML trivia, but I
would wager that only a few hundred folks in the entire world know the
escaping arcana from ISO 9735 EDIFACT syntax. And perhaps only a few
dozen know whether or how Sterling's Gentran:Server accommodates this
EDIFACT standard technique.

That's the beauty of XML: it's so ubiquitous, any monkey walking in off
the street knows the syntax - or is expected to. With practically all
syntax considerations out of the way - handled in a standard manner
understood by every programmer - folks will finally be able to
concentrate on their e-business applications.

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA
+1 (614) 487-0320





 
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