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Re: X12 CICA: Is it the future? Does anyone really "model"?
OK, based on this public and some other private correspondence, I will
relent to a point. If people on this list have specific technical
questions about how X12.7 (aka CICA) works and would like to see the
answers on this list, I would be glad to try to answer them. However, I
don't really care to address the politics, decisions, or several of the
"whys" of the current state of affairs, or to make value comparisons with
the work of other standards bodies. The lack of alignment is, for me
personally, somewhat of a sore spot. I tried a few years ago to get ANSI
ASC X12 and the UBL TC interested in joint XML development, and my efforts
were met with, at best, indifference in both organizations. So, forgive me
if I am more than a bit annoyed by anyone in either camp who now complains
about lack of alignment or who wants to make negative comparisons in either
direction. As disappointing as is the state of affairs with X12 and the
UBL TC, the history of X12 and UN/CEFACT is infinitely longer and more
tortuous.
Be assured that there are some of us who are working in different ways to
achieve convergence, or at least minimize some problems in key areas due to
lack of convergence. But, don't expect miracles either. At some point the
standards wars becomes a religious issue more than a technical issue, and I
challenge anyone to name a major religion that hasn't been splintered into
two or more sects.
Cheers,
Mike
At 08:45 AM 1/25/2005 -0500, William J. Kammerer wrote <snipped>:
>You're right, Mike, "many people on this list [don't] care much about
>the more arcane aspects of standards." But they might very well care who
>*already* (e.g., OASIS UBL) has standard business documents devised
>which conform to other standards, like W3C XML, ISO 15000-5 and ISO
>11179.
>
>And, no, we don't expect everyone to know why adhering to ISO 15000-5
>and ISO 11179 is a good thing; only standards developers have to know
>this stuff. But, suffice it to say, these foundational standards enforce
>a rational naming system and ensure a logical means of building the
>components that make up e-business messages. An XML e-business standard
>which does not fully conform to ISO 15000-5 and ISO 11179 might be
>deficient compared to one which does. Therefore, ISO 15000-5 and ISO
>11179 conformance are "good" things and can serve as "check-boxes" when
>choosing the standard you'll use when moving to XML.
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Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting
www.rawlinsecconsulting.com
Using XML with Legacy Business Applications (Addison-Wesley, 2003)
www.awprofessional.com/titles/0321154940
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