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RE: Need Help in Obtaining Mapping Skills

From: "Rachel Foerster" <rachel@...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2005  11:51 pm
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Need Help in Obtaining Mapping Skills
Bill, one or hundreds of XML vocabularies and standards won't make a wit of
difference whether mappers are necessary or not. Even if there were only one
vocabulary each organization would have to map that vocabulary semantically
to their internal vocabulary.

Also, mapping doesn't necessary require either X12, XML or UN/EDIFACT. Even
when dealing with one organization's fixed field/fixed record length files
one must map that organization's fields to one's internal fields - this is
also mapping.

Mapping (or associating one field to another) won't become extinct for
decades if not millennia.

Rachel
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
39432 North Avenue
Beach Park, IL 60099
Voice: 847-872-8070
Fax: 847-589-8081


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From: Bill Chessman [mailto: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:23 AM
To: EDI-L Mailing List
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Need Help in Obtaining Mapping Skills


William,

Clearly, despite the discussion of the last week or so, we're more on
the same page than not. I thoroughly agree with you that XML, in and of
itself, does not solve the mapping question. Intelligent design of XML
messages will answer some of the problem but the proliferation of XML
vocabularies and "standards" will keep "mappers" in business for a long
time.

Best regards,
Bill Chessman
Inovis(tm)

-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:36 AM
To: EDI-L Mailing List
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Need Help in Obtaining Mapping Skills


Mike, "mapping" may be an "arcane black art," but I don't see it ever
going away. And the more variegated interoperable inter-company
standard (EDIFACT or X12 EDI, or XML-based lower-case "edi") messages
there are, the more need there is for "mapping"!!

William J. Kammerer
Novannet
Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA
+1 (614) 487-0320

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rawlins" < To: < Sent: Friday, 04 February, 2005 06:36 PM
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Need Help in Obtaining Mapping Skills




Gee, someone actually wants to acquire skills in this increasingly
obsolete, soon-to-be doomed, arcane black art!

Now that I've recovered from my amazement, Ann (or Lori, as the case may
be), it helps to have a good foundation in a procedural programming
language like C/C++, Java, or VB. Afer that, you need to be conversant
with the EDI syntax (probably X12 - there's a tutorial on my web site),
and be fluent in reading the various implementation guidelines. Sorry, I
know of no training for the latter.

Beyond those foundation, prerequisite skills, everything you're going to
deal with is product-specific. However, the various products are similar
enough in what they do that once you have the prerequisite skills I've
noted and become proficient with one product, an employer may give you a
chance on a different product. You can get training on various products
from respective vendor classes, but you may not want to pay their
prices. A cheap way to go is to get a copy of "Demystifying EDI" - see
link on my books page (http://www.rawlinsecconsulting.com/bookmag.html).
It comes with a trial version of what used to be known as "Trading
Partner Desktop". You may also check out one or more of the open-source
products that support EDI at Sourceforge.net, and try to teach yourself.

Hope this helps.

Mike

At 02:40 PM 2/4/2005 -0800, Lori Davis wrote:

>Is there anyone out there who can help me get some
>practical EDI mapping skills? Everytime I go to
>interview for a job I don't get hired because I don't
>know how to map, yet all of the EDI jobs I've had
>won't teach me to map. I'm over qualified for
>customer service jobs and underqualified for the
>technical jobs because I don't know how to map.
>
>Being that I'm unemployed right now, I'm willing to
>volunteer to help an experienced mapper just to get
>some skills. I'm in Northern California. Help!! I'm
>at my wit's end. Any suggestions would be
>appreciated. Thanks.
>
>Ann Wilson
>510-260-5539




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