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RE: What's an ASN?
Karl,
While an ASN may be received for a complete order, this would more likely be
a planned coincidence. Our company hopes to ship complete orders, and when
we do, the ASN coincidentally reflects the complete order. Often enough,
though, the order is too big to fit on a truck (yes!), or part of the order
is unavailable for shipment at the time (dang!). Some companies may also
combine orders within a shipment/ASN. So in my industry, the ASN should
mirror the shipment, the BOL as Travis indicated.
Some carriers provide us, the shipper, with an EDI 214 shipment status
report. They do not provide electronic notification to the consignee.
Art Douglas
Manager, eCommerce Systems
PaperPak
San Dimas, CA
909-971-5025
-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Truax [mailto:
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:13 AM
To: 'Karl Wolf';
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] What's an ASN?
"What is the relationship between an ASN and a packing list?"
I had always heard the comparison of ASN to BOL. How is an inland shipment
different from an ocean shipment? Doesn't it have all the same product?
(Unless some of it was "lost" on the docks. ;)
"Should we also expect one subsequently from the logistics provider?"
I believe that would normally be handled with the 210- series of logistics
docs in x12, right?
Travis-
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Wolf [mailto:
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 11:11 AM
To:
Subject: [EDI-L] What's an ASN?
At first glance, this may seem like a basic question. But I am more
interested in the nuanced definition of the ASN. I know that the ASN
is appropriately sent via the 856 / DESADV message. I need to
understand the relationship of the ASN to other shipping documents,
its timing, and its content as it pertains to international shipping.
In the final analysis, this will tell me how our system should treat
this inbound "document". I have seen people equate the ASN with the
packing list i.e. that the ASN is merely the e-quivalent of the paper
packing list. I have also seen others equate the ASN with a shipment.
The latter is complicated in international shipping because
"shipment" is a moving target. While the factory may talk about an
inland shipment, a logistics provider talks about the ocean shipment.
Some questions to initiate discussion:
1. What is the relationship between an ASN and a packing list? Are
they equivalent or not?
2. Who are the appropriate supply chain parties to send this
document? Clearly, we should expect one from the factory as they
prepare to ship / as they ship. Should we also expect one
subsequently from the logistics provider? Others?
3. Are the relationships entirely dictated by the buyer? Or, are
there other constraints / considersations? Example: Will a
multi-container order always produce an ASN for each container as it
is packed? Or might we alternatively receive one ASN for the complete
order.
Thanks (in advance!) for your comments.
Karl
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