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RE: What's an ASN?

From: "Terry Vaughn" <vaughnte@...>
Date: Wed Mar 23, 2005  6:48 pm
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] What's an ASN?
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There is certainly a "lot" of flexibility in the usage of an ASN, but in general, I would say this. 
1)  An ASN overlaps functionality of a BOL, a Packing Slip, and to some point an Invoice.  It is the Trading Partners (preferably mutual) prerogative to determine and define the usage of any given ASN document.
 
2)  An ASN can be used by any "entity" that wishes to convey information about a shipment of goods...whether the goods are shipped via Ocean, Rail, or Trucking.  The information can contain the how, when, where, and why of all aspects of the shipment...as detailed or as general as need be.  These various transportation industries may have (and use) their industry specific messages, but again, it's a decision of the trading partners as to which message to use and how it is to be used.  I suspect multiple messages of overlapping capability would be used for multiple transporation methods i.e.  China to Nebraska.
 
Terry E. Vaughn
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-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Wolf [mailto:wolfkarlj@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:11 PM
To: EDI-L@y...
Subject: [EDI-L] What's an ASN?



At first glance, this may seem like a basic question.  But I am more
interested in the nuanced definition of the ASN.  I know that the ASN
is appropriately sent via the 856 / DESADV message.  I need to
understand the relationship of the ASN to other shipping documents,
its timing, and its content as it pertains to international shipping.

In the final analysis, this will tell me how our system should treat
this inbound "document".  I have seen people equate the ASN with the
packing list i.e. that the ASN is merely the e-quivalent of the paper
packing list.  I have also seen others equate the ASN with a shipment.
The latter is complicated in international shipping because
"shipment" is a moving target.  While the factory may talk about an
inland shipment, a logistics provider talks about the ocean shipment. 

Some questions to initiate discussion:
1.  What is the relationship between an ASN and a packing list?  Are
they equivalent or not?
2.  Who are the appropriate supply chain parties to send this
document?  Clearly, we should expect one from the factory as they
prepare to ship / as they ship.  Should we also expect one
subsequently from the logistics provider?  Others?
3.  Are the relationships entirely dictated by the buyer?  Or, are
there other constraints / considersations?  Example: Will a
multi-container order always produce an ASN for each container as it
is packed?  Or might we alternatively receive one ASN for the complete
order.

Thanks (in advance!) for your comments.
Karl









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