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RE: AS2
And they are DGI certified? The Certificates are self-signed, not
created by a CA.
What are the system requirements?
How does it work with inbound/outbound etc?
Send me some info, I'm listening.....
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Roach - Mobile [mailto:
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:36 PM
To: Bob Scheuermann
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] AS2
I'll give you 5 licenses for under $2K...
R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Scheuermann" <
To: <
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] AS2
>
> It's been that way since Wal-Mart started pushing mandatory AS2. 5
> licenses are 10K in one quote I got. The ROI just isn't there for the
> supplier to move to AS2 for one or two or three customers.
>
> The AS2 vendor will argue that they must pay the cost of continually
> certifying for Drummond, the cost of support etc. That's
> understandable, but I believe the license cost is too high for most
> suppliers. As Denise said, "it's cheaper to pay the KC costs", or you
> can have the VAN send the data in AS2 to the partner.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Rawlins [mailto:
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:18 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L]<Sales> AS2
>
>
> Now *that* is real irony! (and idiocy). Hey AS2 vendors, take note!
> You're missing some sales opportunities due to your high prices. You
> could bring in some more business if you lowered the cost of
additional
> licenses.
>
> Mike
>
> At 01:58 PM 3/24/2005 -0600, Denise Tate wrote:
>
> >We have a good AS2 solution but are at a stand still with only 3
> >partners currently on AS2. The cost of adding more licenses exceeds
> >the benefit of switching from a tradional VAN connection to the AS2.
> >It is cheaper to pay Kilo character costs. Anyone else in a similar
> >situation.. Love the
> >AS2 speed but the $$$ hinders the advancement?
> >
> >Denise
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bob Scheuermann [mailto:
> >Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:47 PM
> >To:
> >Cc:
> >Subject: RE: [EDI-L]<Sales> AS2
> >
> >
> >
> >It's a problem if you're dealing with Wal-Mart and others who require
> >that your AS2 program be Drummond certified. We've discussed the
cost
> >of their certification in other threads. But, the requirement by
these
> >companies is still there.
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [mailto:
> >Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:42 PM
> >To:
> >Cc:
> >Subject: RE: [EDI-L]<Sales> AS2
> >
> >
> >Dang, I just realized they're not Mom approved, or UL approved
either.
> >I wonder if they are FDIC insured?
> >
> >Art
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rob [mailto:
> >Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:55 AM
> >To: Patrick Mlcoch;
> >Cc:
> >Subject: Re: [EDI-L]<Sales> AS2
> >
> >Better tell Homeland Security
> >
> >
> >--- Patrick Mlcoch < wrote:
> > > I don't see that softshare is a drummond approved product.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:31:04 -0800,
> > >
> > > < wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So much for not pushing your own software. Here
> > > goes:
> > > >
> > > > Managing certificates, handling routing, packaging
> > > and unpackaging AS1, AS2
> > > > and AS3 are all handled for one low price by
> > > Softshare's ECS and Delta. The
> > > > AS2 and AS3 have just been added to their latest
> > > releases of these two
> > > > products, and our firm is just beginning to reap
> > > the benefits.
> > > >
> > > > Leo is correct, creating certified keys is done by
> > > an outside service.
> > > >
> > > > There are no limits to how many trading partners
> > > you set up, no additional
> > > > license fees for as many connections as you wish
> > > to make. It's not open
> > > > source. It is supported by an excellent customer
> > > support staff.
> > > >
> > > > Don't take my word for it. Check it out and
> > > download a demo at
> > > > www.softshare.com, or call Nathan Camp who posted
> > > on this subject last
> > > > night.
> > > >
> > > > Art Douglas
> > > > Manager, eCommerce Systems
> > > > PaperPak
> > > > San Dimas, CA
> > > > 909-971-5025
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mendelson2001 [mailto:
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:29 AM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: [EDI-L] Re: AS2
> > > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > We can also offer you an AS2 software which also
> > > can automaitcaly root
> > > > the messages to the correct partners and start
> > > configurable work for
> > > > any incoming messages.
> > > >
> > > > The AS2 software is one part but also very
> > > important at the AS2 area
> > > > is the handling of keys and certificates. At this
> > > you need
> > > > professional service even if you use an opensource
> > > solutions for AS2
> > > > communication.
> > > >
> > > > On this I have a questions to AS2 users. How you
> > > handle the expire of
> > > > keys if you have many AS2 partners? Mostly the
> > > keys expire every year.
> > > > So you have all the time to check if all the keys
> > > are actual?
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Leo Mendelson
> > > > --
> > > > mendelson-e-commerce
> > > > www.mendelson-e-c.com
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 07:44 PM 3/21/2005 -0500, Paul McTeigue
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >I have a customer who uses Sterling for all his
> > > communications
> > > > > >but they recently had a "request" from one of
> > > their smaller
> > > > > >customers to communicate using AS2. I have
> > > heard somewhere
> > > > > >about an open-source AS2 solution. Anybody
> > > using an acceptable one?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >Paul McTeigue
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >-----------------------------------------------------------------
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