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News Gothic Condensed" color="#008000">It seems like we are doomed to repeat this utterly useless debate about what is or is not **real** EDI on this list about every two years. Here we go again.
It used to be that EDI (all caps) was used when one was referring to using either the ASC X12 or UN/EDIFACT standards - and edi (all lower case) when one was still electronically exchanging data, but not using one of these two standards.
And now that we have added XML to the standards soup - what do we call it?
Actually, who cares what it's called as long as the business need is met and the business benefits are realized?
Rachel
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd. 39432 North Avenue Beach Park, IL 60099 Voice: 847-872-8070 Fax: 847-589-8081 http://www.rfa-edi.com/
Ok then. On your next job interview, where they want and EDI person, then lets see what happens when you put down that
you’ve been doing spreadsheets and smoke signals. LOL
From: Martin.Morrison@b... [mailto:Martin.Morrison@b...] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:35 PM To: EDI-L@y... Subject: RE: [EDI-L] EDI Question
If my system outputs coded smoke signals which are captured and transmitted via webcam (Gotta have that part in there for the "Electronic" component) and the receiver has a way to decode the signals, and convert/load them to another system, that's EDI. Format of the coded signals is irrelevant as long as we both know what they mean.
Thanks, Martin Morrison
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Garniss [mailto:jgarniss@c...] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:26 PM To: Dubost, Mike; EDI-L@y... Subject: RE: [EDI-L] EDI Question
That is definitely NOT EDI then, no matter delivery method, etc.
Jon Garniss
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-----Original Message----- From: Dubost, Mike [mailto:MDUBOST@A...] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:19 PM To: EDI-L@y... Subject: RE: [EDI-L] EDI Question
Nope, what these people are doing is printing the "spreadsheet" then entering the data at their end.
From: Hurd, Richard [SLCUS] [mailto:rhurd3@C...] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:15 PM To: EDI-L@y... Subject: RE: [EDI-L] EDI Question
With all due respect to Jon, this is an extremely narrow view of EDI that gives short shrift to XML and all the other kinds of EDI that are available out there. Okay, there may not be "all the other" kinds but there are a few -- I particularly remember EIAJ. Has nothing to do with EDIFACT nor X12. Is this not EDI?
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if your app generates the spreadsheet and there's a companion app that your trading partner has who can read it automatically, aren't you then performing an "application to application exchange of business documents?"
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Garniss [mailto:jgarniss@c...] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:45 PM To: NESTOR DE CASTRO; Dubost, Mike; EDI-L@y... Subject: RE: [EDI-L] EDI Question
I have to disagree; EDI is the application to application exchange of business documents. Spreadsheets are not EDI. Unless of course they are sending you a spreadsheet that has the Enveloping structures and X12/EDIFACT data. Then maybe they could be called EDI.
Jon Garniss
EDI Specialist
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-----Original Message----- From: NESTOR DE CASTRO [mailto:nestor@p...] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:38 PM To: Dubost, Mike; EDI-L@y... Subject: RE: [EDI-L] EDI Question
I think you are confusing EDI with standards. You can do EDI anyway you want - it is whether you have to comply with standards where things get split.
From: Dubost, Mike [mailto:MDUBOST@A...] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:35 PM To: EDI-L@y... Subject: [EDI-L] EDI Question
I read all the posts here and am wondering if any of you are getting requests for "spreadsheets" to be sent to
customers calling it EDI? It's looking like anything transmitted is being called EDI without it actually being
EDI as I know it or you folks talk about.
Mike D
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