RE: EDI Question

Here we go again, “real EDI document”, who is the authority on what is “real EDI”? The fact that your system picked it up and did something with it is “real” enough to meet the basic requirements of being (1) Electronic (2) Data (3) Interchange – sounds a lot like EDI to me.

I won’t get into coded smoke signals but sounds possible.

Happy Friday !!

Back to the original question, we have made an accommodation to folks who have not invested in _real_ [edi | EDI] to allow them to submit what amounts to 867 data via spreadsheet.  We have provided them a format, which the rarely comply with, and they email the results to our business area.  The staff in that business area convert the contents of the spreadsheet using EXCEL to csv, place it in my input directory, and the map takes it and spits out an application document that the ERP takes for a real EDI document.  I am a hero, we save one or two FTEs from doing data entry, and life goes on.  Is it EDI?  I tell them it is so that they think they need me on the job.  These days in LA LA land, a job is a good thing.  Alternatively, being independently wealthy is a good thing too.  Better, even.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shan Harter [mailto:shan@s...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:06 PM
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Frenkel [mailto:frenkel@a...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:48 PM
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Now you bring up the question of what is a standard.  As one version of the saying goes,  the good thing about having a 'standard' is that you have many to choose from.

To change industries healthcare has a wealth of HIPAA EDI standards.

 

Regards,

 

David Frenkel

612-237-1966

-----Original Message-----
From: Shan Harter [mailto:Shan@s...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:25 PM
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Correct, but the UIG, ERCOT, ISO NE, PJM, WECO, NPCC, WAAC, FRCC, OEB etc, will not list all the processes and file formats they use on their site. The standard depends on the implementation and use.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Frenkel [mailto:frenkel@a...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:21 PM
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The 'utility industry'  has many segments which includes the Utilities Industry Group which still uses ANSI ASC X12 EDI.

http://www.uig.org/

 

Regards,

 

David Frenkel

612-237-1966

-----Original Message-----
From: Shan Harter [mailto:shan@s...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:13 PM
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The utility industry, a multi-billion dollar industry uses csv viewed in XLS and some even send in XLS.

 

FYI

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Garniss [mailto:jgarniss@c...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:38 PM
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I would agree with that concept. And using that concept, I stand by my original assertion that a spreadsheet is not EDI J

 

 

Jon Garniss

EDI Specialist

-----Original Message-----
From: Holden, Julia [mailto:Julia.Holden@n...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:30 PM
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When working with my business partners, I call the automated exchange of business documents Business to Business (B2B) Commerce.  Within B2B Commerce, there are many solutions - EDI (using a standard EDI format), XML, spreadsheet, webform, SOAP, AS2, VAN, etc. 

 

To answer the original question, we do not get requests for spreadsheets very often.  That is not a service we offer as a B2B solution.

 

Julia Holden
Nordstrom
206-233-5996
Julia.Holden@N...

 

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