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RE: RE: <TECH> Mapping EDIFACT to X12

From: "David Frenkel" <frenkel@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2005  1:31 am
Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] <TECH> Mapping EDIFACT to X12
There are situations where standards are dictated not only by your trading
partner but by government entities. If you import into the US via ship
there is the 24 hour advanced manifest rule which US Customs requires the
use of X12 or their transaction CAMIR. So in this case there is no
interchangeability.

Regards,

David Frenkel
612-237-1966

-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Wolf [mailto: Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:32 AM
To: Subject: Fwd: RE: [EDI-L] <TECH> Mapping EDIFACT to X12



I don't operate at the nitty-gritty EDI level, so pardon my high-level
perspective.

My experience showed that EDIFACT is better suited to international
transactions than X12. I had
worked in the shipping industry, and found, for example, that the
IFTMBF/IFTMBC pair was a richer
transaction than the 300/301 pair. The former handled inland transportation
and multiple
transportation legs better. So, in that business arena, it was difficult to
use EDIFACT and X12
interchangably.

Karl


--- "Hurd, Richard [SLCUS]" < wrote:
> To: "'Dan Mehlhorn'" < > EDI-L Listserv
> < > From: "Hurd, Richard [SLCUS]" < > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:23:52 -0400
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <TECH> Mapping EDIFACT to X12
>
> At Agere, we handled both rather interchangeably. You should be okay.
>
> The stranger it is, the tougher it might be; but generic orders and
changes
> shouldn't present a hassle.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Mehlhorn [mailto: > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:24 AM
> > To: EDI-L Listserv
> > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <TECH> Mapping EDIFACT to X12
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I should know better. The documents are ORDERS and
> > ORDCHG to 850 and 860
> > respectively.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Brandt
> >
> > > We got one of those "things" dropped on us. We don't trade
> > > EDIFACT at all.
> > >We got a demand to switch to EDIFACT for this TP in a month.
> > Not knowing
> > >EDIFACT, I'd like to know is it a reasonable and workable
> > idea to have my
> > >translator map the inbound EDIFACT to my existing X12 template?
> > >
> > > My translator can do this, therefore I don't need sales
> > > calls. My question
> > >deals with will EDIFACT data fit in the X12 template. Sort
> > of like putting
> > >Chevy parts in a Ford. It is workable, but not something
> > you want to do
> > for
> > >the long run.
> >
> > You don't specify what messages/transaction sets you are
> > dealing with, but
> > in theory it can be done. I have several clients who map
> > incoming X12 830s
> > and EDIFACT DELFORs, and 862 and DELJITs, to one flat file layout, and
> > generating 856s and DESADVs out of one flat file layout.
> > --
> > Tom Brandt
> > Northtech Systems, Inc.
> > 130 S. 1st Street, Suite 220
> > Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1343
> > http://www.northtech.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject
> > prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC>
> > Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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