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From: "Larry Pieniazek" <lar@...>
Date: Sun Sep 11, 2005  9:27 pm
Subject: "suspicious websites"
Stephanie, and everyone else... A little due diligence goes a long way.
Don't believe every warning you get... While I think caution is always a
good idea, I think that in this particular case, it may be misplaced, and
further, presence on this widely disseminated list of suspicious sites does
this particular site a very great disservice. A quick review of the site
itself will show that it's a wiki and that hundreds of volunteers are

While these things can be faked, those of you that know wikis know that in
this case it would be hard since anyone can edit them. The mailing lists
associated with this effort to collect and consolidate info from the many
(TOO many, which is the problem this site is trying to solve... Silos of
information that aren't connected, duplicated effort, difficult to query...
Does it sound familiar at all???) different websites with survivor/missing
info have many many participants, also a hard thing to fake.

The notice that Stephanie refers to is from 1 September. Since then (10 days
ago, a long time as things move with respect to this disaster) the
katrinahelp.com site has reformatted over 400,000 survivor records (again,
with the help of hundreds if not thousands of volunteer data entry people,
and dozens of intrepid coders who have developed screen scraping and data
transformation code to automate what could be automated) and supplied them
to the ICRC (Red Cross) db and to other dbs as necessary. The hosting and
backend database is now being provided by salesforce.com's charitable

The donation request was to cover the hosting costs of the site itself, and
no claim was ever made for anything different. I donated 10 bucks, which is
not much compared to what I donated to the relief efforts themselves... It
was a worthwhile risk at the time, and one that I think paid off.

So, caution is a good thing but in this case... ...in my view...

Do your own due diligence, of course. But if you have data transformation
skills, and want to help, this IS something worth investigating. Save your
money, though, monetary donations are not needed any more.

Hope that helps.

It should be noted that all of the above is my personal opinion, based on my
involvement with the project and is not to be construed as official IBM
opinion, advice, or recommendations.

Larry Pieniazek
Work mail: lpieniaz at us.ibm.com
Client mail: lpieni at acxiom.com (current client, may change)
Hobby mail: lar at miltontrainworks.com
Cell: (616)299-6375

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:21:02 -0700
From: "Stephenie Rose Cooper" < Subject: Re: Katrina support app and Shelter efforts

Be very careful ... katrinahelp.com asks for donations. This site may have
some links to valid resources but it is listed as a possible fraudulent web
site by the Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center. Copies of
the warning are widely available:


This is the copy of the warning in my diocesan (church) web site:

Bottom line: Do not donate to any but well-known organizations like the Red
Cross or Salvation Army. Do not sign up for email lists. Etc. DO NOT
CLICK LINKS before looking down at the display bar at the bottom of your
browser and seeing where it might be taking you (same for links in email
messages). Phishers are notorious for putting a legitimate label on a link
that takes you to a fraudulent site.

The fiasco of the recent FEMA director aside, the best resource for
legitimate sites is still FEMA,


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Stephenie Rose Cooper
mailto: mailto:
Diocese of El Camino Real, www.ecrweb.org St. Francis Episcopal Church,
www.stfrancisepiscopalchurch.org Episcopal School for Deacons, www.sfd.edu
Santa Maria Urban Ministry, www.smum.org

"Hunger also changes the world - when eating can't be a habit, then neither
can seeing"
-- Maxine Hong Kingston

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----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Pieniazek
To: Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 6:30 AM
Subject: [EDI-L] Katrina support app and Shelter efforts

See also the below resources (which link to many others), there are
efforts to collate all the shelters that are helping out, and an effort to
facilitate data interchange among the many many different refugee
found person, housing offer, job offer, etc etc web efforts, using commmon
data formats (hey, just like EDI!)


In particular these projects may be of interest:

Hope that helps, thanks, Chuck and everyone, for taking action (as

Larry Pieniazek
Work mail: lpieniaz at us.ibm.com
Client mail: lpieni at acxiom.com (current client, may change)
Hobby mail: lar at miltontrainworks.com
Cell: (616)299-6375

-----Original Message-----

Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:18:51 -0000
From: "Chuck" < Subject: Katrian Support App

Hi All,

I have created a stand alone MS-Access application (this ver requires
Access) for my church that captures a great deal of information regarding
any evacuee's that we may be working with. It is in beta release and
needs some critical development (from our perspective), but will be useful
to the end users as a means of capturing the data. Reports, security,
client/server, run-time, and more are planned on future releases (to be
coming soon). The app is free, as is any support (when available) and

If you know of an organization that is in need of a tool like this,
please send an email to .

Sorry for being off-topic on this one, but I hope this helps.


Chuck Bayes

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