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From: Mike Rawlins <mike@...>
Date: Thu Apr 18, 2002  3:06 pm
Subject: [Fwd: RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core Components -posted for Melanie McCarthy, GM]
Posted at the request of the original author. Please forgive the
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Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core Components -posted for
Melanie McCarthy, GM
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Many things are easier said than done and I am learning that some of the most
challenging concepts are SIMPLE, REUSEABLE and CONSISTENT- particularly when
there are preconceptions on what/ how these term apply.

To reminisce down standards "memory lane" the EDI world did attempt to meet the
needs of all within a defined business document. Though I would not have called
it the "kitchen sink" approach, I agree that the problem was that the
definitions were, at times, unclean and riddled with semantics that often caused
problems with reuse.

Then came XML, a new syntax, which also had the potential of exchanging trading
partner messaging. But more importantly it created the awareness that as
technology continues to evolve there will most likely be other syntaxes. So the
value proposition created by Core Components, created independently from syntax,
grew exponentially.

EbXML began by stating that they would deliver templates (not core components)
that if implemented, would create an ideal solution. The issue that we are now
facing is the transition from today's messaging (regardless of the syntax) to
the envisioned state. The fact that the road is difficult does not imply that
the original concepts should be discarded, or rushed, for the sake of speed. If
we take either of those steps, the result will be just another vocabulary of
terms.

Where I disagree with Mike Rawlins article is the supposition that the work is
moving slowly and/or will ultimately be discarded. When I attended the March
EWG meeting in Barcelona I saw the draft results of six different global
organizations' work with ebXML Business Processes and/or Core Components as well
as progressing the work that I chair on eBTWG Core Components Supplemental
Documents (CCSD). I also have heard about many other similar efforts where the
participants are very positive about the results. But I agree everyone is
longing for the Catalog of Core Components (I think there are nights that I lust
for it!). The hesitation has been driven by the need to do things correctly,
and only through multiple trials will there be confidence in exactly what and
how should information be presented. For example, I am as concerned that the
Core Components will be so "generic" that there will not be enough substance to
be of value to implementers or not enough definition to insure consistency
throughout the process. But we have one opportunity to publish the information
correctly, because this information is the foundation that everything else will
be built upon. So the real solution is premium participation/involvement to
assist in expediting this work. The detailed discussions are thought provoking
and require both innovative thinkers as well as detailed executioners to meld
the brightest and best concepts from both worlds of thought. So I would implore
additional participation in all of the continuing work, though the following
website www.ebtwg.org.

In conclusion, I believe UN/CEFACT has an interim role to lead all us of to the
ultimate simple, reusable low cost solution that ebXML promised to deliver. It
seems like we are transitioning through a curve where the last steps are the
steepest and most difficult to accomplish. It is similar to what I imagine
climbing Mt. Everest would be, the last day of the climb in the toughest. But
when you arrive at the top, there are two results: everyone knows that you have
made it and on a personal level there is a feeling of tremendous accomplishment.
Each of you has the opportunity to join the expedition in the final trench to
the top!

Melanie McCarthy, GM

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rawlins [mailto: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:45 PM
To: edi-l; ebxml-dev; XML/EDI
Subject: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core Components

I've just posted the next to last article in my series on ebXML - A
Critical Analysis. You may find "ebXML Core Components - the master
data dictionary?" at the URL below.

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Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting
www.rawlinsecconsulting.com





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