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Re: N4 Segment
Hi Erin,
Sorry for if any confusion there. You are right, I
meant implementation guideline by IG. Infact, I was
referring to 837 Professional HIPAA implementation
guide as an example. N4 segment in this guide is used
many times at various levels. But atleast on some
loops it is a required segment(Ex. 2010AA.N4). The
question was, if I can treat a 837 transaction HIPAA
complaint if I miss N402 element in the N4 segment at
2010AA loop.
Reading your msg, you probably are referring to the
standard 837, and my question seems to be in regards
to HIPAA 837 implementation.
Thanks
Chandra.
--- Erin Proudfoot < wrote:
>
> Chandra, by "IG", I thought you meant
> "Implementation Guideline" from a
> specific partner. The general IG for an 837
> document does not have the N4
> segment mandatory, nor does it define any of the
> elements of N4 to be
> mandatory. So not having an N4 segment would not
> break any *general* EDI
> guidelines.
>
> So it is your trading partner that is making these
> elements mandatory.
> that is why you should speak to them directly and
> discuss your particular
> situation to come up with a compromised solution.
>
> erin
>
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> Thu 04/18/2002
> From: Chandra Damera <
> 12:56 PM
>
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> To: Erin Proudfoot
> <
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> Cc:
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> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] N4 Segment
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>
> But wouldn't that be termed as breaking the IG
> rules?!
> IG clearly says N402 is required.
>
> --- Erin Proudfoot < wrote:
> >
> > I've come across this several times myself and the
> > only way "around" it is
> > to talk to your trading partner and see what they
> > would like you to do. In
> > most cases, they will say "send all you can send
> to
> > us", which may just be
> > a city name and country.
> >
> > erin :)
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > Erin Proudfoot
> > EAI Business Systems Analyst
> > Qiva, Inc.
> > 398 Kansas Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94103
> > http://www.qiva.com
> >
> > Work: 415-762-6192
> > Cell: 510-593-4912
> > Fax: 415-762-6003
> > Email:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thu 04/18/2002
> > From: Chandra Damera <
> > 04:21 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To:
> >
> > Cc:
> >
> > Subject: [EDI-L] N4 Segment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > When using the N4 segment on say the 837P
> > transaction,
> > how do we expect to use the elements in case of
> > address out of US ?! Especially, how do we address
> > the
> > fact that there could be a city name but not a
> > state.
> > And since these are defined as required on the IG,
> > would not having N402 on N4 segment be treated as
> > violation of IG?!
> >
> > Any thoughts appreciated.
> >
> > Regards
> > Ravi Chandra Rowthu
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> > Fax (401) 679 8125
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