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Re: Re: Mercator vs. BizTalk
If you are comparing BizTalk to anything, I would urge you to use the
lattter. We just went through a thorough test at our office and BizTalk
failed spectacularly, coming in the lowest of all the products reviewed. We
concluded BizTalk to be in the "design concept" stage, not even beta. Maybe
in a couple of more years ....
Data Junction has the database connections to do almost anything. These
guys are new to the EDI world but long in the tooth in database conversion
and mapping utilities. Very impressive. However, we considered TIE
Commerce and Sybase as our top picks. Mercator was declined due to several
reasons, but a big one was ease of use, also cost, especially when they wish
to sell the map standards as an extra cost option. TIE Commerce, while it
is not the real power hitter that Sybase is, was easy to use and supplied
virtually everything we needed.
Sybase was determined to be the best of all.
We were selecting for the NT/SQL world. If you are working in Unix or
Linux, your requirements may differ from our own.
Lawrence Leavell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Stynsberg" <
To: <
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Re: Mercator vs. BizTalk
> Mani, Jim,
>
> Could one or both of you maybe elaborate a bit on the shortcomings.
> As a long-time Mercator mapper/lover (at the desktop/authoring
level--never
> on Commerce Broker), it's disappointing to hear about shortcomings...
> You don't need to flame, just inform...
>
> Dean
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <
> To: <
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Re: Mercator vs. BizTalk
>
>
> >
> > I agree with Jim on Mercator Commerce Broker. We evaluated it and found
> > that it was absolutely impossible to migrate from Mercator's Trading
> > Partner EC (we exploit the TPEC to the max). We have compiled the short
> > comings/lacking features of Commerce Broker and forwarded it to Mercator
> > for review.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jim Dawson"
> > < To: <
> > m> cc:
> > Subject: [EDI-L] Re:
> Mercator vs. BizTalk
> > 04/18/02
> > 09:23 AM
> > Please
> > respond to
> > "Jim Dawson"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > When evaluating BizTalk, don't forget to include the
> > accelerators provided by Microsoft partners. A key one for
> > EDI is the Covast Accelerator (www.covast.com), which
> > resolves many of the issues that BizTalk has with
> > connectivity and with EDI (such as handling Interchanges).
> > Covast has their own EDI product (mostly used in Europe),
> > which they modified to meet Microsoft's requests in regards
> > to BizTalk.
> >
> > I would separate the two into mapper and infrastructure
> > components. The Mercator mapping engine is the best in
> > class of the ones with which I am familiar (just my opinion,
> > no intent to start a flame war :-] ). The BizTalk mapping
> > engine is much less robust -- its ability to handle message
> > structures such as the 856 HL loop is without scripting or
> > multiple pass mapping is suspect. We are just beginning to
> > work with BizTalk, and the capabilities of the mapping
> > engine are not to the level that we wish.
> >
> > Of more concern is the Mercator infrastructure:
> > M4EC/Commerce Broker, if this is what you are evaluating.
> > Our folks worked with Mercator products for many years at
> > various companies, and our experiences with this product
> > have, er, not been fulfilling. At the same time, I'm sure
> > there are many folks out there who have positive things to
> > say, and you need to hear from them.
> >
> > David was absolutely correct in pointing out that you need
> > to establish your needs before starting to decide which EDI
> > product is best for you. It may well be that neither of
> > these products is the best. Also don't rely on the vendors'
> > statements as to the capabilities of their product in
> > regards to your needs -- either get a third party to
> > evaluate them for you or make the vendors do a proof of
> > concept. The more time and money that you spend up front
> > making sure you have the right product, the less money and
> > frustration in the implementation phase.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jim Dawson
> > Managing Partner
> > Second Star Professional Services, LLC
> > www.sspsi.com
> > 919.742.5623
> > 919.548.6521 [mobile]
> >
> >
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