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Re: Gentran Integration Suite
Susan,
I think your conclusion is a bit of a stretch (recruiters are tied in with
software
piracy)...
Recruiters list their openings and look for matches on resumes based on key
words -
many of which they know little about.
Yes, most recruiters don't know a bit from a byte. However, they generally
communicate more effectively and can negotiate better than those they place. In
other
words they have little disdain for others because they aren't smart enough to
sense or
form a conclusion as to why they should or shouldn't have the disdain for
someone else
in the first place. I think as developers we all know that we are smarter than
them,
but does that really mean anything that they couldn't be found nearer than 50
feet
from the science fair in high school. Everyone has a need on the list - even
the end
user and/or recruiter. <g>
All job postings require <JOBS> as a subject prefix.
--
Richard Druckenmiller
Susan Stecklair wrote:
> Hi All --
>
> I appreciate all the comments and information regarding the Gentran
> Integration Suite (yes, even the bad ones ! ). I'll be more forthright
> with you why I dislike the anonymous recruiter postings EDI-L -- which
> was really the point of my posting yesterday. In early Dec. 2002, I
> began seeing a flurry of request from headhunters requiring experience
> with the UNIX version of Gentran Integration Suite. In my opinion, all
> these headhunters were the fly-by-night type, unprofessional, and in
> many cases using the freebie anonymous email addresses with no other
> contact info. I was able to talk to two or three of them. All of
> them had a "client" that insisted on the UNIX Gentran Integration Suite,
> several had very specific version numbers for the product and gui, they
> were generally lacking in ecommerce knowledge, were very vague about
> what their client was integrating it with (Oracle, SAP, etc.), or any
> other details. I thought it smelled very fishy. I had not heard of the
> Gentran Integration Suite, and I did some research.
>
> At that time, the earliest mention I could find for the Gentran
> Integration Suite product on the Sterling Commerce web site was in July,
> 2002 which announced (really a pre-announcement) they would be shipping
> the UNIX version in Q42002 with other platforms to follow later. Here
> is the URL (although it was gone when I checked it today):
>
http://www.sterlingcommerce.com/apps/pressreleases/ViewRelease.asp?ReleaseID=429
>
> I ran the product tutorial (Gentran Integration Suite Web Seminar)
> (Dated 11-17-02),
> http://www.sterlingcommerce.com/Apps/Events/Archives.asp
> NOTE: The trainer indicating that the product had been shipped within
> the month. At that time, there were no training classes for the
> Gentran Integration Suite offered by Sterling.
>
> I find it very fishy that there are so many Gentran Integration Suite
> clients with a product that JUST shipped are looking for consultants to
> help with their (very vague) implementation, and they MUST have Gentran
> Integration Suite experience (& not just the core product). Therefore,
> (you can call me crazy) I've concluded that many of these "recruiters"
> are a front for a band of international software pirates (or worse) that
> have targeted the Gentran Integration Suite for development. This is
> why I dislike the anonymous recruiting posting on EDI-L (or anyplace
> else).
>
> Finally, to focus on the technical perspective. Here is the URL for
> the product info:
>
> http://www.sterlingcommerce.com/solutions/products/ebi/integrator/gis.html
>
> Basically, the core product is the current Gentran version and
> Sterling's own literature states that you do not have to migrate to the
> new Suite if your version is current, but the existing client can add
> extensions which are better integrated with the core product: XML,
> RosettaNet, AS2, ebXML, etc, etc. My comments in the previous email
> were misleading (I was recalling from memory my December research) and
> I stand corrected.
>
> Regards,
> Susan Stecklair
>
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