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Re: beginner question: X12 flavours
Charles,
It is clear that your trading partner is sending you data directly from
the output file of the Oracle Applications EC Gateway (they used to call
it EDI Gateway until they fancy in Release 11i). If they think that they
are sending you an X12 850 they are grossly mistaken.
They are not the first Oracle customers to think that the Oracle EC/EDI
Gateway is all that they ned to "do" EDI. The Oracle documentation
clearly states otherwise but that is often overlooked while listening to
the sales "puff" about how their product can do anything.
That is not meant to belittle the product. When used knowledgeably it is
a very powerful and versatile product that can ease the work a translator
must be made to do but it is is not a simple cure all as some naive
companies have assumed.
You mentioned lots of whitespace. Even if it is not whitespace much of
the typical output file is data that a specific company will not use in
their EDI transactions. The file is easily modified by simple
administrative transactions to eliminate much of this useless data or,
with more effort, to add data needed for a specific transaction that the
file does not normaly contain.
Your Trading Partner seems to have no idea what they are doing. Since
they are a customer I assume you will want to communicate that to them in
as diplomatic a manner as possible. You may suggest to them that if they
want to proceed expiditiously they can work with the value added services
of a competent VAN to take their output file and use it to produce the
850 PO. I know that GXS has done this with Oracle EC/EDI Gateway files.
I'm sure other VANs would be happy to provide the service as well.
Allan Bennett
Cincinnati, OH
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:10:00 -0000 "cmcf_au <
< writes:
> Hi all
>
> A new customer is asking my company to implement what they've called
> an X12 850 for them. In my (very limited) experience with X12
> formats I expected a PO with a data format that used a sequence of
> asterix-delimited lines--identified by 2 or 3 character codes such
> as "ISA", "GS", "ST", "BEG" etc--that were typically around 20-50
> characters in length.
>
> This customer however--who is using Oracle R11i--is supplying a PO
> format that's devoid of delimiter chars (other than CR) & primarily
> identifies data positionally with flds they call Record Number,
> Record Layout, and Record Layout Qualifier. These flds are
> positioned at col 92-100 and contain combined values like
> "0010CTCTL" on line 1 of the transaction, "0020A1TH1" on line 2,
> "0030A2TH2" on line 3 & so on. The sample data lines are typically
> around 200 - 500 chars in length (mostly whitespace).
>
> The format is reasonably easy to follow, but its radically different
> from what I was expecting! I had assumed X12 to be a reasonably
> homogenous format based on premises reasonably similar to EDIFACT,
> but this current customer seems to have blown that idea out of the
> water :)
>
> Is anyone able to help me out by commenting on the number of X12
> flavors around, &, if they recognize it, maybe identifying the
> example I've described here from this Oracle customer?
>
> Many thanks in advance!!!! My inexpert web searches so far haven't
> shed any light on the subject, and I'm keen to get some independent
> input before I go back to the customer.
>
> Regards,
> Charles Ferguson
>
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