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RE: Removing EIN/SSN Separators
William,
I have seen some hungry 800 lbs gorillas that have required some
interesting things in their TPA's. As has been said here numerous
times, the customer (or payer) rules.
Regards,
David Frenkel
Business Development
GEFEG USA
Global Leader in Ecommerce Tools
www.gefeg.com
612-237-1966
-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:10 AM
To: EDI-L Mailing List
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Removing EIN/SSN Separators
Lou, unless and until the HIPAA IGs explicitly say dashes shall not
appear in IDs such as EINs and SSNs, the recipient should be prepared to
accept them - and a sender should aim to avoid emitting them. But the
last thing we want to see is that kind of stuff cluttering up TPAs or
"companion" guides, which will set in concrete some payers' demand for
the dashes, and yet other payers' demand for the opposite - requiring
that the poor provider (the sender) maintain separate one-off maps.
Dashes or no dashes, leading zeroes are indeed significant in EINs and
SSNs and must always be included.
William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
+1 (614) 487-0320
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Bedor" <
To: "usa coder" <
Cc: <
Sent: Tuesday, 13 May, 2003 01:32 AM
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Removing EIN/SSN Separators
Joe,
The IGs don't specify. Element 67 is an alphanumeric which means that it
can contain numbers as well as characters - in this case character
separators. In my experience, the usage of the dash in EINs and SSNs has
been consistent -- about half used the dashes and half required that
they be excluded. This is an issue that should be established in the
Trading Partner Implementation Guide or agreement. I checked a couple of
the HIPAA IGs and they also are silent on this topic.
LouB
----- Original Message -----
From: "usa coder" <
To: <
Sent: Monday, 12 May, 2003 04:21 PM
Subject: [EDI-L] Removing EIN/SSN Separators
In the NM1 segment when field 66 designates an EIN number with a value
of 24 or a SSN number with a value of 34 does field 67 contain the
separator character '-' commonly used in data entry.
for instance
...*24*00-0000000*...
or
...*34*000-00-0000*...
Thanks in advance,
Joe McVerry
P.S. My guess is that the separators are not used, much like leading
zeroes are not used.
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