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Re: X12 sees the writing on the wall.

If you can't hire them, try planting some seeds and growing your own.
We did, and you can too.
EDI guys just don't get any respect. It's a good thing we love our work.
Gary Bligh wrote:
>All,
>Perhaps EDI is an old technology, and yes, perhaps translators are
>expensive. Yet, EDI is widely known vis-a-via XML and newer technologies.
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>It is just incredibly difficult enough to hire highly-competent EDI
>professionals, who understand data entry from source application, through
>business mapping and scenario analysis, coding the translator, following up
>with the VAN and inter-connects (if applicable, when no ftp, AS2, etc.),
>confirming successful TP translation and TP user acceptance.
>
>Where are the inexpensive, talented resources who both under the business
>(ie pharmaceuticals, transportation, etc.) and technology (setup and ongoing
>support)?
>
>Please understand that I do like innovation, yet I don't see fortune 500
>firms investing in the latest and greatest technologies with excess
>capacities and inventories, low capital investment, and weak consumer
>demand.
>Perhaps after companies experience a noticeable economic turn-around, firms
>will invest in new data transfer (little edi) technologies. Until then, in
>my humble opinion, big EDI (x.12 and EDIFACT) will continue to dominate.
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>I have been using GENTRAN:Server for unix for several years now, and am very
>satisfied with its performance.
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>Respectfully submitted,
>
>Gary Bligh
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "William J. Kammerer" <
>To: "EDI-L Mailing List" <
>Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 sees the writing on the wall.
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>>It will happen in your lifetime, Brian, for sure. EDI's like an old
>>friend who's kind of getting slow and tired. And the most exciting
>>thing to hit EDI in a good long while, HIPAA, is fast petering out.
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>>I'm not saying EDI is dead. Even though I wouldn't write a life
>>insurance policy on Granny, I still wouldn't go out and shoot her. No,
>>EDI will stick around a good long while. But anything new will - or
>>should - be done in XML. The mapping and translation can all be done
>>with free standard software - albeit GUI-less, for now. Sure, EDI
>>translators now include elaborate scheduling systems and whatnot. But
>>remember how translators started out 15 years ago? They could do far
>>less than the free XML parsers and transform languages available today,
>>but they cost $50,000 on up with onerous annual maintenance fees!
>>Let's kick these bad habits. What are we waiting for?
>>
>>William J. Kammerer
>>Novannet, LLC.
>>Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
>>+1 (614) 487-0320
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Brian Lehrhoff" <
>>To: "William J. Kammerer" <
>>Cc: <
>>Sent: Tuesday, 15 July, 2003 06:41 PM
>>Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 sees the writing on the wall.
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>>not in your lifetime, not in mine. or at least not until my last
>>mortgage payment is made.
>>
>>take a look at the swift folks. they already nuked one xml based
>>project, and the big-bang conversion to xml in 11/04 has already been
>>pushed back six months. the beautiful thing about xml - the freedom of
>>structure - gives the networks fits. we've all made a lot of money in
>>the last 15 years, and i don't see that trend stopping anytime soon.
>>
>>don't toss those manuals - sell them on ebay as antiques.
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>>William J. Kammerer wrote:
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>>>But everybody else is free to cobble up XML schemas and write Perl!
>>>Throw away those X12 manuals, now!!
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>>Brian Lehrhoff (
>>EDI Consultant
>>Bank of New York
>>201-913-4506
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