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Re: X12 sees the writing on the wall.
Brian,
Yes, I do love my work.
Gary
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From: "Brian Lehrhoff" <
To: "Gary Bligh" <
Cc: "EDI-L Mailing List" < "William J. Kammerer"
<
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 sees the writing on the wall.
> If you can't hire them, try planting some seeds and growing your own.
> We did, and you can too.
>
> EDI guys just don't get any respect. It's a good thing we love our work.
>
> Gary Bligh wrote:
>
> >All,
> >Perhaps EDI is an old technology, and yes, perhaps translators are
> >expensive. Yet, EDI is widely known vis-a-via XML and newer technologies.
> >
> >It is just incredibly difficult enough to hire highly-competent EDI
> >professionals, who understand data entry from source application, through
> >business mapping and scenario analysis, coding the translator, following
up
> >with the VAN and inter-connects (if applicable, when no ftp, AS2, etc.),
> >confirming successful TP translation and TP user acceptance.
> >
> >Where are the inexpensive, talented resources who both under the business
> >(ie pharmaceuticals, transportation, etc.) and technology (setup and
ongoing
> >support)?
> >
> >Please understand that I do like innovation, yet I don't see fortune 500
> >firms investing in the latest and greatest technologies with excess
> >capacities and inventories, low capital investment, and weak consumer
> >demand.
> >Perhaps after companies experience a noticeable economic turn-around,
firms
> >will invest in new data transfer (little edi) technologies. Until then,
in
> >my humble opinion, big EDI (x.12 and EDIFACT) will continue to dominate.
> >
> >I have been using GENTRAN:Server for unix for several years now, and am
very
> >satisfied with its performance.
> >
> >Respectfully submitted,
> >
> >Gary Bligh
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "William J. Kammerer" <
> >To: "EDI-L Mailing List" <
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:24 PM
> >Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 sees the writing on the wall.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>It will happen in your lifetime, Brian, for sure. EDI's like an old
> >>friend who's kind of getting slow and tired. And the most exciting
> >>thing to hit EDI in a good long while, HIPAA, is fast petering out.
> >>
> >>I'm not saying EDI is dead. Even though I wouldn't write a life
> >>insurance policy on Granny, I still wouldn't go out and shoot her. No,
> >>EDI will stick around a good long while. But anything new will - or
> >>should - be done in XML. The mapping and translation can all be done
> >>with free standard software - albeit GUI-less, for now. Sure, EDI
> >>translators now include elaborate scheduling systems and whatnot. But
> >>remember how translators started out 15 years ago? They could do far
> >>less than the free XML parsers and transform languages available today,
> >>but they cost $50,000 on up with onerous annual maintenance fees!
> >>Let's kick these bad habits. What are we waiting for?
> >>
> >>William J. Kammerer
> >>Novannet, LLC.
> >>Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
> >>+1 (614) 487-0320
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Brian Lehrhoff" <
> >>To: "William J. Kammerer" <
> >>Cc: <
> >>Sent: Tuesday, 15 July, 2003 06:41 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 sees the writing on the wall.
> >>
> >>
> >>not in your lifetime, not in mine. or at least not until my last
> >>mortgage payment is made.
> >>
> >>take a look at the swift folks. they already nuked one xml based
> >>project, and the big-bang conversion to xml in 11/04 has already been
> >>pushed back six months. the beautiful thing about xml - the freedom of
> >>structure - gives the networks fits. we've all made a lot of money in
> >>the last 15 years, and i don't see that trend stopping anytime soon.
> >>
> >>don't toss those manuals - sell them on ebay as antiques.
> >>
> >>
> >>William J. Kammerer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>But everybody else is free to cobble up XML schemas and write Perl!
> >>>Throw away those X12 manuals, now!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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