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RE: X12 sees the writing on the wall.
William:
Geez guy, chill with those adjectives will 'ya? Does your
document checker insist on inserting them to every
message?
And, just curious, but have you switched employment
from an EDI to an XML company recently?
Paul McTeigue
www.icefan.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:
Sent: July 15, 2003 11:46 PM
To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 sees the writing on the wall.
We just had a dialogue just last week about some poor schmuck who has
spent the last 11 years with a particular expensive proprietary EDI
system with onerous annual maintenance fees, "SC G:S for UNIX ECWB"
(which I take to be Gentran Server for eunuchs). And potential
employers don't want to touch him because he doesn't have experience in
their *particular* proprietary technology.
So that must mean the potential employer has bottled up the lifeblood of
his corporate data - or his maps - in some obscure proprietary format
that only certain gurus can unlock. I guess I would rather have my data
in XML - at least I could throw a couple of O'Reilly programming books
at new employees if they didn't already know open technologies like
XML, XSD, Perl and XSLT.
EDI's problem isn't really the EDI standards themselves: they're open
and well-documented enough. But it's really hard to get at this
(relatively) open data without locking yourself into expensive
proprietary EDI mapping systems with their onerous annual maintenance
fees, arcane GUI systems and obscure macro languages. Trust me: there
are far more folks walking around who know Java, XML, XSD, Perl and XSLT
than will ever know "SC G:S for UNIX ECWB."
By the way, what is an "industry-standard platform" when it comes to
EDI? Mercator, Gentran, Sybase, Vitria? C'mon - they're probably as
different from each other as night and day. No wonder an employer
insists on experience with a particular vendor's particular version
running on a particular platform. I'll bet you can't even move maps
from one platform to another of some of these vendors' products. But
XSD and XSLT are the same everywhere. So which would you rather have
your "lifeblood" locked into?
William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
+1 (614) 487-0320
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pavao" <
To: "William J. Kammerer" < "'EDI-L Mailing
List'" <
Sent: Tuesday, 15 July, 2003 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] X12 sees the writing on the wall.
Sure, but would you feel the same way if you were the CIO responsible
for that EDI system? Would you rather be vulnerable to proprietary
in-house systems built by employees who will eventually leave and take
the expertise with them, or pay the fees and have the "insurance" of
being able to call the vendor or a staffing firm and get some contract
support in there asap if your SME splits?
Would you really be willing to risk the data that is the lifeblood of
your corporation like that? I don't drive without auto insurance, and if
I were the CIO, I would make sure my EDI was running on an
industry-standard platform.
John Pavao
-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:49 PM
To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 sees the writing on the wall.
<snip>
You know, I suppose I would rather learn a few things well - like Java,
Perl and XSD schemas - than to struggle with some of these expensive
proprietary EDI mapping systems with their onerous annual maintenance
fees, arcane GUI systems and obscure macro languages.
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