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RE: FAX-to-Order Software?

From: jd_12345@...
Date: Tue Jul 29, 2003  3:22 pm
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] FAX-to-Order Software?
My current client is not directly involved with HIPAA but, as a healthcare
industry provider which includes direct shipments to patients, privacy is an
issue. While third party or ASP solutions might be permissable, I would expect
it would be a hard sell to the client and, quite frankly, I expect my
predjudices would make it a hard sell to me also.

"going offshore with healthcare data"
Bite your tongue. I suspect the vast majority of this mailing list's
participants are engaged as employees of or contractors with the originators or
recipients of such data. "Going offshore" doesn't provide us with a lot of job
security. 8-)

Jim Divoky
EC Solutions, Inc.
> Jim,
> If you are referring to the HIPAA privacy requirements there is nothing
> in the regulations that would forbid an ASP model if reasonable
> safeguards were taken to protect data. There have been many discussions
> about going offshore with healthcare data but the government (CMS) has
> not explicitly ruled against it.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Frenkel
> 612-237-1966
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto: > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:45 AM
> To: Marcel Sieira
> Cc: > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] FAX-to-Order Software?
>
> I'm seeking a solution available in the USA. Government mandated
> privacy
> requirements would probably preclude a hosted solution. I would not
> expect any
> physical scanning of faxes as the fax arrives in electronic format. I'm
>
> assuming any OCR software would convert the fax directly once it is
> converted
> to TIFF format. Currently, I believe the client has a fax server that
> routes
> the faxes as email attachments. I'll know more tomorrow after I
> interview the
> fax order system owner.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Divoky
> EC Solutions, Inc.
> > Jim,
> >
> > Are you looking for a solution available in the US or elsewhere?
> >
> > Are you looking a running your own scanning / imaging OCR system
> in-house or
> > looking for a hosted service?
> >
> > Marcel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [mailto: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:50 AM
> > To: > > Subject: [EDI-L] FAX-to-Order Software?
> >
> >
> > Is anyone aware of any commercial fax-to-order solutions? What I'm
> referring
> > to is the conversion of faxed orders into mapped data that can be
> loaded into
> > an order entry system with little or no user intervention. An example
> of a
> > full-blown commercial solution can be seen at
> >
> http://www.ironside.com/downloads/productlit/Automated%20Fax%20Ordering%
> > 20Solution.pdf.
> >
> > I'm also considering OCR software that might provide a portion of a
> solution
> > that can be integrated into an existing automated order entry
> solution. The
> > OCR software would have to allow for the creation of sender-specific
> maps to
> > convert selected fields in the faxed document into a defined data
> format such
> > as XML, ANSI X12, CSV, etc.
> >
> > Jim Divoky
> > EC Solutions, Inc.
> > > Anil,
> > >
> > > Gentran usually comes with a System Message Manual. If you have
> one,
> > > you can
> > > look under the Processing Messages section to find error number 785.
> All that
> > > manual will tell you is that an element that is Mandatory on the
> standards is
> > > not provided in your inbound data.
> > >
> > > That being said, your error report looks a little odd. Usually the
> > > report lists
> > > a segment under the SEG ID column and then the element number under
> ELT/NBR.
> > I
> > > am not familiar with an 835 transaction. In looking at your report I
> would
> > guess
> > > the segment in error is a '31' and elements 10,20,30 and 60 are
> mandatory but
> > > not filled in. A segment of '31' looks odd to me so I am wondering
> if your
> > > inbound data is not wrapped correctly or is missing segment
> terminators.
> > >
> > > You may want to use Sterling's website for customer support.
> > >
> > > Julia
> > >
> > > Nordstrom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [mailto: > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:16 PM
> > > To: > > > Cc: > > > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <OFF-TOPIC> Error Message '785'
> > >
> > >
> > > Grey,
> > > Please don't respond to every product specific map development
> > > question with a
> > > plug for your product that actually has nothing to do with the
> question being
> > > asked.
> > >
> > > Ken Cox
> > > Brach's confections
> > >
> > > Grey Warnock < wrote:
> > >
> > > >Anil,
> > > >
> > > >Using SpecBuilder Enterprise in conjunction with Gentran and other
> > > >mappers can greatly assist in diagnosing these types of errors.
> > > >SpecBuilder Enterprise can validate a data file against a
> established
> > > >guideline and produce a comprehensive error report that identifies
> > > >the location of the error in the guideline as well as the data that
>
> > > >is in error.
> > > >
> > > >In addition, SpecBuilder contains a comprehensive library of
> > > >standards including X12, EDIFACT, and more, that would enable you
> to
> > > >easily reference the standards.  You'd then be able to locate all
> of
> > > >the mandatory fields to help in further diagnosis of your maps.
> > > >
> > > >Please see www.edifecs.com for additional information.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Grey
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: kasat13 [mailto: > > > >Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:36 PM
> > > >To: > > > >Subject: [EDI-L] Error Message '785'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi all,
> > > >    I am working on Gentran for Inbound processing. I am getting
> > > >the error message as follows while executing the JCL:
> > > >
> > > >1 EBDI041     RUN  7/16/2003      TIME 23:47      ERRORS
> ENCOUNTERED
> > > >MAPPING INC
> > > >0 ERROR  **RECORD**        FIELD SEG ELE
> > > >  NUMBR    NBR ID          SEQ # ID  SEQ INFORMATION   ERROR
> MESSAGE
> > > >0 INTERCHANGE: WISC                                QUAL: ZZ  
> CONTROL
> > > >NO: 100000
> > > >  GROUP      : WISC                                QUAL: ZZ  
> CONTROL
> > > >NO: 200000
> > > >  TRANSACTION: 835                                          
>  CONTROL
> > > >NO: 0085
> > > >0   843       8                           N1         MESSAGE NOT
> > > >FOUND ON ERROR
> > > >
> > > >0   785       1 '31'           10                    ** WARNING **
> > > >MANDATORY FIELD/ELEMENT MISSING.
> > > >
> > > >0   785       1 '31'           20                    ** WARNING **
> > > >MANDATORY FIELD/ELEMENT MISSING.
> > > >
> > > >0   785       1 '31'           30                    ** WARNING **
> > > >MANDATORY FIELD/ELEMENT MISSING.
> > > >
> > > >0   785       1 '31'           60                    ** WARNING **
> > > >MANDATORY FIELD/ELEMENT MISSING.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    I am not able to understand where should I go and see the
> > > >mandatory fields referred to here. And how can I resolve this
> error.
> > > >
> > > >    Please help..
> > > >
> > > >Thanks in advance.....Anil
> > > >
> > > >P.S: I am a novice in Gentran. Hence may be my question would be
> very
> > > >basic one.
> > > >
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