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RE: Upgrade to Gentran 6.0
Hi,
We migrated from Gentran 5.3 on HP-Ux to Gentran 6.0 on AIX, both at the
ECWB level. I agree with Tom. It took a few weeks of mostly one
persons time. (The biggest issue for us was differences in Unix
commands in our pre and post processing scripts for HP vs AIX; nothing
to do with Gentran). The migration programs and documentation was good,
and the process was straightforward (you install 6.0 alongside of your
existing 5.3; the conversion extracts from 5.3 and loads to 6.0; even if
there were any glitches your 5.3 system would be intact and you would
just start over).
If you don't introduce AI into the picture, there is no learning curve.
We chose to separate the migration from future plans to develop in AI.
Advantages of AI mapper (in no particular order):
1) it allows XML mapping (as source, destination, or both);
2) it is a better mapper (IMHO) as changing one instruction only
affects that instruction (in the old Mentor/Visual Mapper, one change
could completely change the sort order, causing you to have to manually
re-sort the map to get anything close to your original results before
modification); For any of you who have used the Premenos EDI/Open
mapper in the past, it allows similar functionality (but it is
implemented differently) which is more functionality than the Visual
Mapper;
3) the AI mapper is compatible with both the Gentran NT mapper and is
the mapper used in Gentran Integration Suite;
4) support for Mentor/Visual Mapper will eventually be dropped; AI is
the one chosen to be supported going forward and is the "common" mapper
to be used across all platforms (see # 3).
We are still running all of the Visual Mapper maps we were using; we
are using AI for all new maps we are developing. We do not plan to
rewrite VM maps in AI; we will probably use AI to replace these maps
only on version upgrade, although I am tempted to stick with VM even in
this situation since Sterling has not yet (as far as I know) added a
version migration tool for the AI mapper like they have for the Visual
Mapper.
Ken Cox
Brach's Confections, Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: Perry Short
To: 'Thomas Behr' ;
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Upgrade to Gentran 6.0
Speaking of the AI mapper in Gentran 6.0, what are the advantages of
converting to it anyway?
Perry
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Behr [mailto:
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:52 AM
To: <mailto:
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Upgrade to Gentran 6.0
We were running EC Wkbnch 5.3 and migrated to 6.0 with no issues. Total
was about 2 weeks (one resource) for migration and testing, followed by
running systems in parallel for a short period of time. Documentation
provided by Sterling was pretty good. We also did not convert our maps
to the new AI mapper.
Tom
>>> "Sadhu, Chakradhar" <
<mailto: > 11/11/03 07:02PM >>>
Hi Marin,
It depends on what you are planning to upgrade. If you are just planning
to upgrade your translator to 6.0 then it shouldn't be a big deal. But
if you are planning to change all your maps from visual mapper to AI
mapper then its a big deal as there is no utility to convert the maps
automatically.
We did just the translator upgrade in just a month with one resource
(including testing, QA etc). If you have a good EDI person with
experience on Gentran UNIX then the learning curve should be very small.
We also implemented ECWB (for the first time) in 6.0 - It took about 3
months with one resource.
Thanks,
Chakradhar Sadhu
-----Original Message-----
From: MORITA, MARIN [mailto:
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:53 PM
To: <mailto:
Subject: [EDI-L] Upgrade to Gentran 6.0
Can anyone offer an opinion about upgrading from Gentran 5.3 to Gentran
6.0? How long does the actual upgrade take? What's the learning curve
like?
We're on UNIX, but I'd be interested in hearing about experiences on any
platform. We're just looking for general "how big of a deal is this?"
information to help in planning when and how to upgrade.
Thanks,
Marin Morita
Valspar
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