Mike, I'm assuming that by now you've read my response on this topic. While
I agree that there is a semantic note providing a specific business meaning
to DMG02, I believe there is sufficient specifity with
the X12 standard such
that an syntax analzyer can apply reasonableness edits at a minute. So, even
though I'm no longer an official member of X12C, I respectfully disagree
with C's interpretation on this query.
The WEDI SNIP
White Paper on Testing defines a Type 1 test as follows:
Type 1: EDI syntax integrity testing - Testing of the EDI file for valid
segments, segment order, element attributes, testing for numeric values in
numeric data elements, validation of X12 or NCPDP syntax, and compliance
with X12 and NCPDP rules. This will validate the basic syntactical integrity
of the EDI submission.
I would suggest that a reasonableness check for the range of valid values
for at a minimum the month and day components of the full 8-digit date is
well within the scope of this type of testing. Since the field is
semantically defined as birth date, a resonableness check may become a bit
problematic unless one's system would impose a limit of no birth year ealier
than some reasonable year designation.
Rachel
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rawlins [mailto:
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:41 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [
EDI-L] HIPAA: Does use of a qualifier mean validation should
be done?
X12C received a formal request for interpretation on exactly this point
sometime in the past year or two. Our official response was that this is
not a syntax error. The relationship between DMG01 and DMG02 is specified
in a *semantic* note, and there is no provision for generating syntax
errors (reportable in a 997) from a semantic note.
I can't speak to how Claredi works, but if they classify a "Level 1 Error -
against X12 Standard Requirements" as applying to non-compliance with
semantic notes, then I suppose it is correct. In addition, an
implementation guide could certainly call something like this
non-compliance. However, there's nothing in X12.6, the segment dictionary,
or data element dictionary to formally call your example an "error".
Contact me off-line if you need more info or a copy of the response.
Mike
At 09:17 PM 12/4/2003 +0000, anthonybeecher wrote:
>I am trying to classify an error level for a rejected data element,
>DMG02, where DMG01 is "D8" and the data value in DMG02 is "19999999";
>obviously there is no month 99 and no day 99.
>
>Claredi calls it a Level 1 error - against X12 Standard Requirements.
>I disagree with this assessment.
>
>In my mind, the only validation that is required relative to X12
>Syntax Requirements is that the field is type AN and sized from 1 to
>35 bytes.
>
> >From a pure X12 standpoint, does the use of a qualifier imply a
>forced validation of the format of the data element that it
>qualifies?
>
>I guess the possible answers would be:
>1. no validation is required; only X12 AN and 1-35 applies
>2. validation is required that 8 numeric values exist
>3. validation is required that 8 numeric values exist and the
>subportions are expressing proper ranges 1-12 for MM and 1-31 for DD
>4. If 3 - then leap year rules also apply?
>
>Thanks
>Anthony Beecher
>
>
>
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