I'm glad to be able to share what little I've picked up over the years. I
recall sitting in those meetings for days and years when I participated in
the HIBCC
EDI Technical Committee and later chaired it.
If anyone has gotten
an X12 code added to DE 235 for this, as William said,
it will be UCC that would have done it since as we all know, Wal-Mart and
retail is taking the lead for the use of these RFID chips on products. I
suspect it will be a fairly long time before we see medical products
manufacturers moving en mass to this, but my money would be on the big
distributors, such as Owens & Minor and Cardinal Health forcing it back to
the manufacturers. Quite frankly, I don't see hospitals/
health care
providers moving towards adopting this technology for a very long time.
Rachel
Rachel Foerster
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
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Thank you, William and Rachel for the responses. I so much appreciate the
wisdom and knowledge that you two provide to this
forum, as well as the many
others who make it a really valuable tool. At the time I posted the
question, I was sitting with the HIBCC eBusiness Standards Committee at
their regular winter meetings, and the subject came up of the electronic
chip-borne codes.
Regards,
Art Douglas
Manager, eCommerce Systems
PaperPak
San Dimas, CA
909-971-5025
"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments
that take our breath away."
--George Carlin
-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <tech> Qualifier for EPC Code
The Electronic Product Codes is devised by the UCC - the same folks who "do"
the UPC. It's used with the RFID tags we've been hearing so much about.
Heck, even all the AS2 vendors are rushing like lemmings into RFID and Item
Synchronization! An EPC is similar to a UPC in that it identifies the
manufacturer and product, but it goes a step further by adding a unique
serial number for the item itself. I would assume that EPCs will eventually
obsolete UPCs, GTINs and UPNs and so on.
In any event, it's not up to DISA to devise the "requirement" for qualifying
the EPC (using DE 234, I suppose). The X12 membership would probably
approve the addition of appropriate codes, if any were proposed - assuming
that such a code doesn't already exist. It would most likely be the UCC who
would ask for such a code if it made any sense.
William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
+1 (614) 487-0320
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From: "Rachel Foerster" <
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Sent: Friday, 05 December, 2003 05:42 PM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <tech> Qualifier for EPC Code
Art, I don't believe such a code was added to DE235 in the X12 standards. On
the other hand, a code the the Universal Product Number
UX Universal Product Number
A unique identifier of a healthcare product
was added to the codeset. I submitted the original data maintenance request
for this at the time the UPN was being agreed to between HIBCC and UCC.
I'm curious...what would be the distinction bewtween an electronic product
code versus the Universal Product Number versus any othe product identifier?
And why would you think that companies would want to maintain yet another
set of product identifiers with all of the units of measure, packaging
levels, package counts, etc. Don't you think there are enough different
product identifiers for health care products that are already confounding
the industry?
Rachel
Rachel Foerster
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
Voice: 847-872-8070
email: <mailto:
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Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:59 PM
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Subject: [EDI-L] <tech> Qualifier for EPC Code
The Health Industry Business Communications Council is asking if there is a
qualifier for EPC code, the Electronic Product Code. Industry leaders are
talking about implementation in Q1 2005. Does anybody know of a DISA
response to this requirement?
Art Douglas
Manager, eCommerce Systems
PaperPak
San Dimas, CA
909-971-5025
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