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RE: RE: Third Party Logistics (3PL)
Linda & Gary remember to stick to our agreement about those prices.. :-)
David, maybe your local Global logistics provider friendly salesman has
these?
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: David Frenkel [mailto:
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:11 PM
To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
Linda,
I feel like I am becoming the moderator of a panel of competitors. Do
you
have any benchmarking at what point it is economical or advantages (ROI)
for
a company to integrate into the 3PL for EDI? For example dollar amount
of
shipments, number of shipments etc. I am curious about the SME market.
Thanks.
Regards,
David Frenkel
612-237-1966
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Denison [mailto:
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:53 PM
To: David Frenkel; 'EDI-L Mailing List'
Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
The one that uses FEDEX is better :-)
--
Linda Denison
Senior Technical Analyst
FedEx Corporate Services
EC Integration Development
+1 (469) 524-6422
-----Original Message-----
From: David Frenkel [mailto:
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:52 PM
To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
Gary,
Here is a scenario to get your unbiased response. There are 2
healthcare
companies that have similar products that are used in surgical
procedures.
Company A distributes using FEDEX from the company A warehouse and
Company
B
uses a UPS warehouse for distribution (true scenario). Can you explain
in
your unbiased opinion which is better from both a logistics and EDI
perspective? Thanks.
Regards,
David Frenkel
612-237-1966
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Bligh [mailto:
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:17 PM
To: David Frenkel
Cc: EDI-L Mailing List
Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
All,
I think global logistics companies are grand.
Gary Bligh
UPS
> Steve,
>
> From what I have read the majority of organizations are happy with
their 3PL
> and the pain seems to be with specialty or niche type work. For
example in
> retail stores the vendor is relying more on point of purchase (POP)
displays
> that vendors often rely on store employees to set up. It is
estimated about
> a third of these displays never get off the loading dock. Most 3PL
will
> only handle point to point and not get involved in any specialty
work.
>
> I know DHL has been a global freight carrier for some time. The
article I
> linked to below talks about even in China reducing freight costs has
become
> an issue for exporters. I know in China the quality of the packing
for
> ocean going containers is an issue for breakage. A 3PL might help
in this
> area.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> David Frenkel
>
> 612-237-1966
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Lee [mailto:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
>
>
>
> Dave,
> As with any outsourcing the IT pitfalls I've seen are
the
> customer looses direct control of their project timelines, unless
they
> are a big fish. Global 3PL's are able to handle your whole supply
> chain. They can take from multiple suppliers/warehouses, store or
> crossdock in 3PL managed exclusive warehouses and move freight break
or
> consolidation across multiple carriers. A multinational customer
would
> then get consolidated customized reporting even across competing
3PLs,
> that is if you are using multiple 3PLs, which in that case it is
best
to
> choose a main 3PL to report to you.
> This is starting to sound like a sales call.
> It's easier for a transportation provider to open a
> warehouse, than it is for a warehouse provider to provide in house
> transportation as there is no infrastructure in place.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Lee
>
> DHL Danzas Air & Ocean
> 120 Tokeneke Road
> Darien, CT 06820
> United States
>
> Phone +1 203 656-6892
> Fax +1 203 662-5499
>
> <mailto:
> <http://www.us.danzas.com/> www.us.danzas.com
>
> All business transactions are based on DHL Danzas Air & Ocean terms
and
> conditions, available upon request.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Frenkel [mailto:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:06 AM
> To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
>
> Steve,
>
> I am most curious at the 'pain' points of using a 3PL some of which
you
> touched on. Most people think of a 3PL as an organization that runs
a
> warehouse which I have experience dealing with and they are often
not
> very
> inefficient for a variety of reasons. The 3PL marketplace is
crowded
> and I
> wonder what the differentiators are between these transportation and
> warehousing service providers. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> David Frenkel
>
> 612-237-1966
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Lee [mailto:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:12 AM
> To: 'David Frenkel'; 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
>
>
>
> Dave,
>
> Most curious issue that happens is that EDI was
originally
> intended as a two party transaction. Now it's a three party
transaction
> and
> trying to intercept, extract, and process coherently the differently
> formatted data is like playing monkey in the middle of the United
> Nations.
> Especially when the customer has multiple warehouses, suppliers and
> multiple
> Carriers (3PLs).
>
> From which angle are you looking at these 3PL
> implementations?
> The Supplier, Carrier/Warehouse or Customer?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Lee
>
>
>
> DHL Danzas Air & Ocean
>
> 120 Tokeneke Road
>
> Darien, CT 06820
>
> United States
>
>
> Phone +1 203 656-6892
>
> Fax +1 203 662-5499
>
>
>
> <mailto:
>
> <http://www.us.danzas.com/> www.us.danzas.com
>
>
>
> All business transactions are based on DHL Danzas Air & Ocean terms
and
> conditions, available upon request.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Greeney [mailto:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 10:02 AM
> To: David Frenkel; 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
>
>
>
> Dave -
>
> I have been involved in a number of 3PL implementations over the
last
> decade
> and would be more than happy to discuss any questions you might
have.
I
> am
> currently implementing a global 3PL solution for a major electronics
> manufacturing company with distribution centers in the US, Europe,
and
> Asia.
> Our goal is to provide real-time persistent EDI communications
between
> customers, field service personnel, distribution centers and the
> manufacturer.
>
> Let me know what types of questions/concerns you might have and I
will
> provide you with feedback based on my experiences.
>
> Regards -
>
> Jim Greeney
> President/GM
> asp4edi.com, inc
> Austin, TX/Hudson, WI
>
>
> David Frenkel < wrote:
> There have been numerous articles about companies outsourcing
logistics
> (which is a big user of EDI). I would be interested to hear from
> anybody
> who has or is looking at outsourcing their logistics/supply chain
> concerning
> issues around this (pro or con). Thanks.
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> David Frenkel
>
> 612-237-1966
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