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RE: RE: RE: Third Party Logistics (3PL)

From: Gary Bligh <gary.bligh@...>
Date: Tue Dec 30, 2003  9:07 pm
Subject: RE: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
All,

Here is a link to UPS Supply Chain Solutions healthcare case studies:
http://ups-scs.com/solutions/case_healthcare.html

Here is the link to various contacts:
http://ups-scs.com/contact/

Gary
> I don't have any numbers to give you... although I'm sure someone in
the
> company has them. We do have some info on our website, including a
few case
> studies.
>
> http://www.fedex.com/us/supplychain/services/?link=1
>
> When companies use logistics services, a big benefit could be seen
for
> time-critical shipments. For example, a company shipping
just-in-time
> repair parts could have the parts warehoused in Ohio, UK, &
Singapore, and
> the parts could be shipped out from the warehouse that is closest to
the
> destination. This gives not only a time savings, but a cost savings
as
> well. From an EDI standpoint, for FedEx, we get data in many
different
> formats, including flat files, as John mentioned. But integrating
all of
> these formats becomes FedEx IT problem and not that of the customer.
But as
> Steve mentioned, whether or not a company benefits from using 3PL
services
> really depends on the circumstances...
>
>
> --
> Linda Denison
> Senior Technical Analyst
> FedEx Corporate Services
> EC Integration Development
> +1 (469) 524-6422
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Frenkel [mailto: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:11 PM
> To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
>
>
> Linda,
>
> I feel like I am becoming the moderator of a panel of competitors.
Do
> you
> have any benchmarking at what point it is economical or advantages
(ROI)
> for
> a company to integrate into the 3PL for EDI? For example dollar
amount of
> shipments, number of shipments etc. I am curious about the SME
market.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> David Frenkel
>
> 612-237-1966
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Denison [mailto: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:53 PM
> To: David Frenkel; 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
>
>
>
> The one that uses FEDEX is better :-)
>
>
>
> --
> Linda Denison
> Senior Technical Analyst
> FedEx Corporate Services
> EC Integration Development
> +1 (469) 524-6422
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Frenkel [mailto: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:52 PM
> To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
>
>
> Gary,
>
> Here is a scenario to get your unbiased response. There are 2
> healthcare
> companies that have similar products that are used in surgical
> procedures.
>
> Company A distributes using FEDEX from the company A warehouse
and
> Company
> B
> uses a UPS warehouse for distribution (true scenario). Can you
explain
> in
> your unbiased opinion which is better from both a logistics and
EDI
> perspective? Thanks.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> David Frenkel
>
> 612-237-1966
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Bligh [mailto: > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: David Frenkel
> Cc: EDI-L Mailing List
> Subject: RE: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
>
>
>
> All,
>
> I think global logistics companies are grand.
>
> Gary Bligh
> UPS
>
>
> > Steve,
> >
> > From what I have read the majority of organizations are happy
with
> their 3PL
> > and the pain seems to be with specialty or niche type work.
For
> example in
> > retail stores the vendor is relying more on point of purchase
(POP)
> displays
> > that vendors often rely on store employees to set up. It is
> estimated about
> > a third of these displays never get off the loading dock. Most
3PL
> will
> > only handle point to point and not get involved in any
specialty
> work.
> >
> > I know DHL has been a global freight carrier for some time.
The
> article I
> > linked to below talks about even in China reducing freight
costs has
> become
> > an issue for exporters. I know in China the quality of the
packing
> for
> > ocean going containers is an issue for breakage. A 3PL might
help
> in this
> > area.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > David Frenkel
> >
> > 612-237-1966
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Lee [mailto: > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:37 AM
> > To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> > As with any outsourcing the IT pitfalls I've seen
are
> the
> > customer looses direct control of their project timelines,
unless
> they
> > are a big fish. Global 3PL's are able to handle your whole
supply
> > chain. They can take from multiple suppliers/warehouses, store
or
> > crossdock in 3PL managed exclusive warehouses and move freight
break
> or
> > consolidation across multiple carriers. A multinational
customer
> would
> > then get consolidated customized reporting even across
competing
> 3PLs,
> > that is if you are using multiple 3PLs, which in that case it
is best
> to
> > choose a main 3PL to report to you.
> > This is starting to sound like a sales call.
> > It's easier for a transportation provider to open
a
> > warehouse, than it is for a warehouse provider to provide in
house
> > transportation as there is no infrastructure in place.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Steve Lee
> >
> > DHL Danzas Air & Ocean
> > 120 Tokeneke Road
> > Darien, CT 06820
> > United States
> >
> > Phone +1 203 656-6892
> > Fax +1 203 662-5499
> >
> > <mailto: > > <http://www.us.danzas.com/> www.us.danzas.com
> >
> > All business transactions are based on DHL Danzas Air & Ocean
terms
> and
> > conditions, available upon request.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Frenkel [mailto: > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:06 AM
> > To: 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > I am most curious at the 'pain' points of using a 3PL some of
which
> you
> > touched on. Most people think of a 3PL as an organization that
runs
> a
> > warehouse which I have experience dealing with and they are
often
> not
> > very
> > inefficient for a variety of reasons. The 3PL marketplace is
> crowded
> > and I
> > wonder what the differentiators are between these
transportation and
> > warehousing service providers. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > David Frenkel
> >
> > 612-237-1966
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Lee [mailto: > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:12 AM
> > To: 'David Frenkel'; 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Most curious issue that happens is that EDI was
> originally
> > intended as a two party transaction. Now it's a three party
> transaction
> > and
> > trying to intercept, extract, and process coherently the
differently
> > formatted data is like playing monkey in the middle of the
United
> > Nations.
> > Especially when the customer has multiple warehouses, suppliers
and
> > multiple
> > Carriers (3PLs).
> >
> > From which angle are you looking at these 3PL
> > implementations?
> > The Supplier, Carrier/Warehouse or Customer?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > DHL Danzas Air & Ocean
> >
> > 120 Tokeneke Road
> >
> > Darien, CT 06820
> >
> > United States
> >
> >
> > Phone +1 203 656-6892
> >
> > Fax +1 203 662-5499
> >
> >
> >
> > <mailto: > >
> > <http://www.us.danzas.com/> www.us.danzas.com
> >
> >
> >
> > All business transactions are based on DHL Danzas Air & Ocean
terms
> and
> > conditions, available upon request.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Greeney [mailto: > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 10:02 AM
> > To: David Frenkel; 'EDI-L Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Third Party Logistics (3PL)
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave -
> >
> > I have been involved in a number of 3PL implementations over
the
> last
> > decade
> > and would be more than happy to discuss any questions you might
have.
> I
> > am
> > currently implementing a global 3PL solution for a major
electronics
> > manufacturing company with distribution centers in the US,
Europe,
> and
> > Asia.
> > Our goal is to provide real-time persistent EDI communications
> between
> > customers, field service personnel, distribution centers and
the
> > manufacturer.
> >
> > Let me know what types of questions/concerns you might have and
I
> will
> > provide you with feedback based on my experiences.
> >
> > Regards -
> >
> > Jim Greeney
> > President/GM
> > asp4edi.com, inc
> > Austin, TX/Hudson, WI
> >
> >
> > David Frenkel < wrote:
> > There have been numerous articles about companies outsourcing
> logistics
> > (which is a big user of EDI). I would be interested to hear
from
> > anybody
> > who has or is looking at outsourcing their logistics/supply
chain
> > concerning
> > issues around this (pro or con). Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > David Frenkel
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