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RE: Re: Frequent Requests for Routine Mapping Help

From: "Chris Burns" <cburns@...>
Date: Fri Jan 23, 2004  5:39 pm
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Re: Frequent Requests for Routine Mapping Help
This post reflects my opinions and not the opinions of my employer.



There are some points to this thread that some people are ignoring. I am a
natural born citizen and a Patriot, I am also new (>6 months) to Gentran. I
have however, been a "Programming Monkey" (or whatever the disparaging
comment was) for years. Do I fall into the category of those who shouldn't
be posting questions for the almighty experts to answer?

And what is this nonsense about IT professionals living in poverty? If an
IT "professional" loses a job and is forced to live in poverty then they
must not have been as "professional" as they thought they were. Unlike other
countries, if an individual loses a position here they have the resources
and opportunities readily available to find a new position or to retrain
themselves for a different career. If they are unable to retrain themselves
then there are student loans available to anyone (who hasn't been convicted
of drug charges.)

Also let us not forget that the American economy has been replacing and
phasing out its own jobs for decades, especially in the Manufacturing
sector. Robots don't get sick or take vacations. They do however need
programmers and maintenance personnel. That means an individual either
increases their skill sets or they start filling out McJob applications. I
was warned leaving High School 10 years ago that a single skill would be
insufficient to stay gainfully employed. Is the news of jobs being
off-shored really surprising anyone?





The global economy is coming, like it or not. I say bring it on :)







Chris Burns



-----Original Message-----
From: Dubost, Mike [mailto: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:05 PM
To: Subject: FW: [EDI-L] Re: Frequent Requests for Routine Mapping Help



* Svg,
You may have no fear of outsourcing but I have personally seen the effects
of it on IT staffs and
the IT "people" it has affected. There is NO justification for putting
trained professionals out of work
in this country - other than Greed. I have seen whole IT departments
eliminated just because it
was cheaper to pay people, H1B status, from India that replaced them.
Should we all live in poverty, as people in other countries do, just to help
corporations boost up
their bottom line to their investors?
A good example I heard was that Levi's has moved it's last plant out of the
US to a country where
it's much cheaper to produce the $40 jeans. Well excuse me, but if the
jeans - made in the US
were $40-that's with costs built in and profit - why are they still $40 when
the costs have nose
dived due to their new location-outside the US? Oh, and of course lets not
forget companies
like Microsoft - do you think that their software will be any cheaper to buy
outsourcing the labor
- technical or otherwise? Is Microsoft so poor and destitute that they have
to outsource outside
the US in order to stay in business?
Svg, just because you have been fortunate - be thankful - because even with
all your training you
too can be replaced!

Mike D.

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