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Re: Re: Fax to EDI.
Yajun,
The largest problem for the longest time for a service
bureau is trying to be everything to everyone. The
products I've seen that use OCR technology will never
get you 100% of the data. furthermore the wide
distribution of business rules and customer specific
information negates the advantage of using this
technology for the service Bureau.
With this said, the SB tries do try and normalize
their ADF files as much as possible to manage the
different maps and business rules the trading partners
require. This enables some automation and less data
entry but at least 15% of the customer base can not be
automated and result in data entry.
The service bureau customer has specific business
rules, product line, shipping methods, and trading
partner requirement's to say the least. Throw in a non
paperless environment and increase cost of doing
business, adds to the complexity and frustration.
A large trading partner who are EDI enabled will have
a much easier timer to manage their customer base than
a service bureau who needs to manage both sides of the
relationship.
--- yliuaaa < wrote:
> Marco,
>
> Do the service bureaus continue mannully enter the
> data for outbound
> documents? There're so many technologies that could
> at least allow
> you to scan the documents and get most fields right.
>
> --Yajun
>
> --- In Marco Romero
> <mromero1us@y...> wrote:
> > Robert,
> >
> > I worked for service bureaus and the last 8 years
> at
> > QRS as an Account Manager before starting my own
> > business.
> >
> > One of the QRS's products were web forms and
> > Fax-EDI/EDI-Fax. At last I worked at QRS they had
> over
> > 2500 customers on FAX-EDI alone. So this is still
> a
> > viable option for small mom pop shops. I
> understand
> > SPS Commerce also maintains a FAX-EDI service as
> do
> > many EDI providers. There will always be a need
> for
> > this type of service for those not bale to
> communicate
> > via the internet
> >
> > This is how the FAX-EDI works!
> >
> > EDI-FAX
> > Inbound documents(from your trading partner)
> >
> > 1. Service bureau performs communication and
> > translation service from EDI to a Print document.
> > (Service bureau owns the VAN mailbox, manages the
> EDI
> > mapping)
> > 2. This document is then faxed or emailed to you.
> > 3. Inbound sessions are almost always only done 1
> once
> > a day in the morning by there service bureau. This
> > means documents received after the morning session
> > will not be transmitted until the next day
> >
> >
> > FAX-EDI
> > Outbound documents(to your trading partner)
> >
> > 1. Service bureau provided you with worksheet
> forms to
> > be filled out manually. These forms are created
> for
> > each trading partner since each customer has
> different
> > requirements. Usually one form per customer/ per
> > outbound document.
> > 2. These forms after filled out are fax or emailed
> to
> > the service bureau for data processing. The
> service
> > bureau data entry staff key punches the data
> received
> > on the form to the service bureaus data entry
> screen.
> > 3. Customers can submit their own worksheet
> provided
> > they comply with all required fields needed by the
> > data entry person.
> > 4. Service bureau then creates the EDI and sends
> out
> > at a specific time during the day. Since service
> > bureaus usually send out
> >
> > The fees depend on the service provider, but
> generally
> > you have the following costs associated with
> service
> > bureaus.
> >
> > 1. Trading partner setup fee ($0- $300 ea)
> > 2. Monthly Mailbox fee ($0- $75 )
> > 3. Inbound documents fee ($1- $5 ea )
> > 4. Outbound Document fee ($1- $5 ea )
> >
> > additional cost service bureau may charge are
> >
> > 1. additional lines per document received @ $.20
> or
> > sent @ $.30. ( add additional $1-$12 per inbound/
> > outbound)
> > 2. Archiving documents $25
> > 3. creating Excel inbound documents $75
> > 4. Customer support fee (varies)
> > 5. Label printing ($.50 per label)
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Marco A. Romero
> > Adaptive Commerce Corp.
> > T 718-699-4567
> > F 718-592-1602
> > mromero@a...
> >
> > --- "Richer, Robert" <robric@i...> wrote:
> > > Bonjour,
> > >
> > > Sorry the "subject" was "EDI to Fax" but should
> have
> > > been Fax to EDI. This
> > > should affect some of the answers I received.
> > > Sorry about this. Not good to do too many
> things at
> > > the same time.
> > >
> > > Have a nice evening,
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richer, Robert
> > > Sent: January 20, 2004 15:16 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: EDI to Fax.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bonjour,
> > >
> > > A quick one for the ones that are using the
> > > fax-to-edi option with some of
> > > their Trading Partner.
> > >
> > > How does it work? Do you fax your form & the
> > > Service Bureau map it to EDI
> > > or do we have to use a standard form? Does
> anyone
> > > do it directly from a
> > > computer automated fax? What are the cost of
> using
> > > this option?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply.
> > >
> > > P.S.: I need to know how it's working. Please
> no
> > > sales speech at this
> > > point.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Robert Richer
> > > Spécialiste EDI
> > > EDI Specialist
> > > IPEX Inc.
> > > 3 Place du Commerce
> > > Île-des-Soeurs
> > > Verdun (Québec)
> > > H3E 1H7
> > >
> > > Tél.: (514) 769-2200 ext.: 233
> > > 1-800-363-2620
> > > Fax: (514) 769-0096
> > > Email: robric@i...
> > > WWW:www.ipexinc.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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